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Offline roberto

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Dux secura vs Buteline
« on: August 24, 2014, 07:57:55 PM »
what are your thoughts.....im interested to know....

I (if I can voice my opinion for a minute) absolutely hate Buteline...id much rather a stronger brass/copper fitting then a plastic one...I think buteline looks cheap and nasty...just saying....

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Re: Dux secura vs Buteline
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 11:15:59 PM »
5 yr ago I would have said the same and secura had superior fittings with swept bends etc - but they no longer do - now i do not think it really matters - alot of composite pipes are actually stronger than many metals especially alloy's - copper brass etc - I have not seen may failures by one or the other - the alloy on bute can become brittle when exposed to the elements for a period of time but that is due to poor installation - they had a period for a while where some fittings were failing straight out of the bag but that was rectified quickly - much of a much-ness IMHO - anything but fusio!!

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Re: Dux secura vs Buteline
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2014, 07:49:43 AM »
I agree with intergated, both are good products, but i am a secura user :)

That said, they both have their limitations and that's where you have to look to copper, mutilayer  products, they both don't like excessive heat or closed circuit/ continuous flow installations. even copper doesnt last, it is prone to erosion corrosion 
This day and age we have a lot of choices when it comes to right pipe for the job.
I believe in doing a job once and right. !

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Re: Dux secura vs Buteline
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 10:09:34 PM »
Not an expert, but I much prefer the copper crimp rings to aluminium. Ali just doesn't seem the right material to last 25 or 50 years. It's soft, prone to creep, readily corrodes - just doesn't seem a good choice. On top of that, I like the so simple view holes in the crimp rings, that allow you to confirm that the pipe is pushed home. Under a house, on your back, trying to re-join two already installed lengths with limited space and poor lighting, while fighting with the long, wide opening handles on the tool to get enough space to actually make the crimp and get the end seated into the socket all at the same time can be a challenge. It's nice to be able to tell, after the fact, that you got it right.

That said, I've found Dux extremely frustrating and difficult to deal with. They have a good product, but they seem to be their own worst enemies. I can see why Buteline seems to have cornered the market. Efficiency, and good service. Dux tries very hard not to be actually helpful, if you ask me.

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Re: Dux secura vs Buteline
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 10:12:07 PM »
P.S. Forgot to mention:

I really like the fact that Dux has a 12mm range, but the Industry just hasn't cottoned on to that yet. But if you want to install efficient, eco-friendly plumbing systems, you've got to start using 12mm!


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