hi all,
 went to another fusiotherm installation today, water hosing everywhere.
 Clearly faulty product, a 15 mm socket had cracked around its circumference.(see attached pic)
it had no stress on it and was about 10 years old. (cold water @ 550kpa)
flooded the house in a block of 40 houses ALL with the same product in them,
i don't use this product and never will, i simply don't trust it.

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/all-about-plumbing-pipe/81/fusiotherm-is-dodgie/1629/

Yes - ask a certain hotel in Wellington that had it .... not good news at all.

Welcome Boris,
 Yes I understand your point, but this is not my battle, the owners insurance company will go fusiotherm .
not me.
and this isn't the first time, there product has failed multiple times and they clam installation fault.
I am not even going there, I don't trust it and wont touch it.

you bet there is monkeys out there, but there is also products that even moneys wont touch.

And the internet is full of ppl with there opinions, and that's the world we live in aye   

hi all,
 went to another fusiotherm installation today, water hosing everywhere.
 Clearly faulty product, a 15 mm socket had cracked around its circumference.(see attached pic)
it had no stress on it and was about 10 years old. (cold water @ 550kpa)
flooded the house in a block of 40 houses ALL with the same product in them,
i don't use this product and never will, i simply don't trust it.

Thanks for sharing this.  I  will not trust that product either, as I had heard some bad things about it as well. 

Regards
Rod
www.allaboutthepipes.com

Did anyone ever come across the chinese copy of fusiotherm? Dismy it was called. The pipe was rubbish, so was the welding tool. it was unbelievable. think of the worst quality product youve seen come in from china and this one was right up there with the worst. it looked like school kids designed the welder...back in 1960...

I know a few jobs where this stuff was put in including a police boat, a prison building in wanganui and a hospital down in levin.

I heard from some other plumbers they had to carry out extensive repairs or replace the entire ringmain in the hospital. They were making this crap in shanghai and sending it over. Eventually fusiotherm bought them out and the factory closed. Not sure what the deal was with any warranties.

hi all, today i have come across my favorite pipe again!!! this time its the pipe that has failed, see the attached pics and you will see what i found when i cut out the ceiling!
i leak coming from under a fusiotherm clip 16mm.
and when we removed the section of pipe, we found it cracked inside.
this system is at 500kpa and 65 degrees and it was a hot water pipe.
great aye!

do they still have different grade pipes for use in different scenarios?

I recall a 100+ room hotel that we piped out in this but we had different schedule pipes for different applications - ie cold, tempered & hot - 1000's meters of pipe and only ever been back for one leak which showed itself within a couple of years

cold = blue stripe?
tempered = plain?
hot = dark green stripe?

can't recall exactly now - don't use it anymore and hated using the stuff

is it as simple as these failures being that wrong pipe type used for intended purpose?

that failure with the socket is probably due to to much heat going into the socket for to long before being joined?

would be interesting to know how many installers followed the manufacturers test procedure as it was very comprehensive and time consuming - not many I would bet