with the introdution of the 2006 act councils and government departments are subject to the same rules as everybody else , they will need to have at least one person who holds a full licence or the job would need to be supervised by someone who has
supervision is pretty vague , and something that needs clarifying by the pgdb ,


I think we will see a lot more unqualified people carrying out plumbing and drainage work and supervised at a distance  ...

having a licence will mean didly squat in the future unless there are clear guidelines as to who can do what and there is a mechanism ensuring the rules are complied with , I dont see any sign of this at the moment



at the end of the day whoever employs unqualified people is taking a risk as insurance companys are getting more vigilant about claims and rejecting any damage claim caused by unlicenced people
Further to that people who knowingly engage unqualified people can also have legal action taken against them .

Jaxcat

they may have clear guidelines , and I am well aware of them, I am certified in three trades so know my responsibilities,

The point I would like to make is unless someone is employed by me , I wont supervise them , In the past with the permit system I didnt mind so much as you were able to check that job ,

With the current situation once you agree to supervise someone , who is  likely running their own buisness , you have no idea what work that person is carrying out day to day ,

All I would say is if anyone is supervising someone who they do not directly employ ie pay their paye acc etc , better have a good relationship with their insurance co , as they will be the one in court should something go wrong , The board dont have clear gudelines on this as far as the protection of the public is concerned ,something I would also like to see is when a person advertises there needs to be a way of determining if they have the qualifications , lately in my area I have seen buisnesses advertising they are fully qualified , and after checking found they arent ,

I intend writing to the board  to see what their response to this is


Be good to see some debate on the above issues

You're being a bit coy on that one JD.  If someone in any authority has told you to look outside your area and you have evidence to back up who has told you this then I believe you should name and shame. 

What a shame you don't have it on tape or in writing because this is truly shameful - the registrar should not be giving this sort of advice, especially as he would be the person prosecuting you if it all goes pear shaped.  I'm not saying I don't believe you - I saying I think the system, made by them, and then obviously ignored by them at their choosing is shameful.