OK people - it got through to Select Committee - and they are having a fast turnaround to get it passed before the Board are due to meet with industry to organise how they might pay back the $600k that the Ombudsman recommended.  Everyone who is within driving distance of Wellington needs to ring Parliament and speak to the Secretary of the Select Committee and say they wish to appear before the committee to speak on the Validation Bill (providing of course you do have something to say).  I think we all agree that there needs to be a disciplinary levy - but should it be as high as it is.  I am also in favour of unlicensed people being prosecuted, but why can't the board live within its means and prosecute out of what the already get sans the offences fee.  Also why can't the public at large fund the public good of stopping unlicensed people carrying out regulated work.  Why should 7100 people pay for the greater good of the NZ public?  The electricians are levied for unlicensed people practising electrical work - no the electrical levy that everyone pays in their power bill goes towards this.  Why can't there be a fee on every building consent, every gas bill and this money get channelled back to the PGDB to fund prosecutions of members of the public.  Today was bullshit in action - most MP's just didn't have a clue - that was the ones left after the major stampede at the end of question time.  They like spending our money as fast as the PGDB do - but then on the salaries they are on the additional costs of an offences fee probably just mean one less lunch at Bellamys.   

If we could swap the bastards in plumbers gasfitters and drainlayers wanting to speak at the Select Committee that would be great!

A case of guys in suits looking after guys in suits.  Some of the comments made in the house today were just plain offensive to tradesmen.  I literally shuddered to see these people in action - it made me think that it as safe for us to leave this lawmaking in their hands as it would be to put an apprentice, six weeks into the job on a Rinnai Arriva with an underfloor flue install.  Apart from that lady Holly from the Green Party, they didn't seem to grasp it at all.  And that includes Maurice "I'll make it all okay Mr Bickers" Williamson. 

Mind you, I reckon Williamson would have liked to join the stampede out of the chamber after question time if he had half a chance.  Must have been smoko with someone shouting the cream buns given the speed they grabbed at their papers and fled.

its a bit of a tricky one really isnt it?



to a certain extent yes one could agree that an industry should be prepared to fund for the protection of itself - by also having to pay to prosecute non registered persons etc

but where do we draw the line - the costs of having to do that has become unfair and unreasonable hasn't it?

an industry of only 7000 populace cannot sustain the type of regulatory cost that is being imposed upon it in my opinion - a ratio of close to 600:1 per capita

as much as I would like to see public pay for public prosecution I cant really see any gov let alone a nat gov at this point in time given the current economic climate shift cost onto the public - much easier for them to charge us for it and have us pass the cost on in doing so forcing us to be the ones to feild the complain.

I do not believe it is fair or reasonable or right or just

I do believe it is a big giant load of hairy horse bollocks!

The main point is....I want a Board, I want regulation, I want dodgy people held to account......

Its how they go about it all, the dodgy ones shouldn't be running it and very badly at that...they ARE incompetent and corrupt.




Yes you, you little turd....spying on this site but leaving no comments....spinless and corrupt.....you will have your comeuppance....

I unreservedly apologise to all well meaning turds.....to lump you in with these despicable turds, evil turds of the highest order....the turdminator of turds....to those turds....kiss my fat welsh arse.

If you google in (in the house .co.nz ) you can watch footage of the reading of the propopsed amendment , it is very interesting , it certainly makes me want to front the select committee and have a say , I will ring parliament and see what time or restrictions will be allocated to anyone wishing to speak , knowing the way things work you will probably have a limited time and have to be specific , so will be interested to know what can be discussed in a submission .

Have rung parliament apparently the date for the select committee hearing is to be posted on the parliamentary website under select commttte hearings this afternoon