I have just watched MW's spiel on Inthe house and I was extremely surprised to see how many MP's had no interest in listening to MW. There were so few remaining MP's. Is this justice?

hi guys, we all need to have a say on this by Tuesday 19th or we are `a cooked goose`a simple scpeel without swear words or they will just chuck them out, read the ammendment bill and you can guess what will happen if it get`s through,cheers

They are allowing on 45 minutes worth of speakers to the Select Committee.  Is this democracy in action?  Is it?  Does your local MP think this is fair?  Have you asked them?  Are YOU going to put in a written submission?  My own MP who waxed lyrical last week when I spoke to him has gone very silent, and was one of the one's who exited the chamber like his arse was on fire after question time before the first reading of the Bill. 

At least they show their true colours so you know the sort of people you are dealing with.  The speaker needed a slapping.  Did you see him gazing into space with Holly from the Green party was speaking and when two of the ruder members were interjecting across from her and shed asked the speaker to intervene.  Took three goes before the dumb bugger cottoned on to to the fact that she was asking him to do something and to wake him up from his daydream.  Wish we could dock his wages for being absent on the job.  Williamson looked thoroughly bored as though the whole thing was beneath him and he would rather be anywhere else (which he probably would).

Biggest joke of the day though is everyone getting suckered into Williamsons story that the Board will be bankrupt if they can't get these fees.  He must have missed the million dollar plus reserves they have - he scaremongered with it and they all fell for it one by one.  I can't wait to go and sit in the public area at the Select Committee hearing - no doubt the PGDB will speak - it will be like a visit to Disneyland..

 Hi guys - here is the information about when to sent it - it has to be in by Tuesday 19th March.  Email address below.   

Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers Amendment Bill

As you have heard the Government is attempting to rush through a Bill to legalise the past actions of the Board.

If you wish to have an individual say in this matter you can email or post your submission to:

Peter Boniface before Tuesday 19 March 2013.

Peter Boniface Administrative Support Officer

Select Committee Services Group Office of the Clerk of the House of Representatives

Parliament Buildings

Wellington

email: peter.boniface@parliament.govt.nz

DDI: 64 4 817 9687

Fax: 64 4 499 1486 www.parliament.nz

You can find a copy of the Bill at:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2013/0101/latest/DLM5073010.html

I'm disgusted by the attitude shown to all this by these so called "right honourable" leaders, its typical....

We have a Board that has totally ballsed up nearly everything it has touched for over ten years, from the incompetence of the gas cert system.... that now carries a disclaimer.... to its kangaroo court prosecution system, that is run like a little club for the boys, and now we find out it is a system funded outside of legal standing. They employ mates and family members before others more qualified. Wrecking peoples lives on a whim boasting of a 100% conviction rate.

These clowns are responsible for systems integral to the health and safety of the NZ public....and in Parliament they treat it like a joke....and they wonder why they continually have problems...... HERES AN IDEA...TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, FIX IT.

YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS..... BECAUSE YOU SOURCE THE CLOWNS FROM THE SAME PLACES, CLUBS, INSTITUTIONS AND KNITTING CIRCLES...ALL WITH THE SAME AGENDA.....AND THEN YOU MAKE THEM NON LIABLE IN THE ACT......IT AIN'T f****IN ROCKET SCIENCE.

Clean house, get all the cronies out, make an example of them, tell everyone why they are being sacked and take away the ability to act with impunity, make them accountable for their actions.

Very interesting Rodza , thanks for that , some points need to bought to the attention of the select committee , when you have the likes of Williamson saying it is just bringing us into line with other bodies he is at the least confused or a total liar who hasnt done his homework , we all need to point these issues out , interesting comparing Australia with NZ , They have the option to licence for up to 3 years , I note with the EWRB the two yearly licence reduced their operation costs , as has been discussed on here and at a number of meetings the select committee that looked at the 2006 act ,reccommended up to 5 year period for our licences that was totally ignored , they wonder why we are fighting back against them .

Ive just been watching the video footage of ministers speaking about this amendment bill and it is becoming glaringly obvious that the ones who support it utterly and entirely have no real supporting basis except to repeatedly state  that "its to allow this board (PGDB) the same powers as other regulatory boards/bodys in NZ industry by being able to charge a disciplinary and offences fee/levy to regulate the industries and protect the health and safety of New Zealanders.

I find that fair enough but the problem is,

Why is it that all of the functions that this 'board' claim to perform come at a price that is anywhere from 3 to 8 times the price of other industries who perform the same functions my comparison being the EWRB ??

Everything from examinations, to disciplinary levies to registration. Everything this board does has a huge price tag attached. Wouldnt be so bad if I was earning 100k a year but I am not...Just a plumber with a van a phone and a cat(no dog) but thanks for the quip Maurice.



The fees review discussion paper from the Electrical Workers Registration Board EWRB I have posted above is evidence other boards do not charge anywhere near what the PGDB  do. Really this should be a slam dunk for the federation, I feel a trip to Wellington coming on I really do.

Answered my own question in information in the amendment bill haha.