I know at least 3 guys that have not relicensed simply because they didn't have enough points! In one case 4 technical points were missing to get his certifying drainage license, like you say Wall they were busy working providing for their families and as we all know know the year goes around pretty fast! Regardless of the reasons if the number of people not relicensing is that high then the board has really created even more problems for themselves. Oh PGDB what a dilemma.