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Offline Wal

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Fellow Practitioner Issue 221 Dated 29 August 2014
« on: August 29, 2014, 06:14:09 AM »
Last week we identified issues with the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board (the Board) Continuing Professional Development (CPD) scheme. This week we want to explain additional issues and briefly outline what our solution to the issue is.

The existing scheme is nothing more than a “purchase point’s scenario”, allowing the Board to tick a box saying they are ensuring practitioners are competent. All practitioners have to do is prove they have the points and they are deemed competent according to the Board. Are we simply paying for bureaucracts to tick a box?

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-221-dated-29-august-2014/1747/

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 221 Dated 29 August 2014
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 10:16:50 AM »
I have read, and re-read the outline for upskilling put together in this newsletter and it is the most consistently thought out scheme that I have seen proposed.  I am very impressed by the logic, it meets the needs of the Act, the needs of practitioners and the needs of the public.  Now we just need the PGDB to see that it also meets the needs they have in regulating this Act.  If Master Plumbers can also be convinced of the logic behind the solution (and I see absolutely no reason why they should not), then suddenly, with the Federation, you have a large section of industry proposing something very, very sensible.  Costs would be harnessed, and any costs arising would be able to be justified as they would come out a demonstrated need.

The other key thing to all of this is the absolute need for any mandatory upskilling to then fall into the apprentice training.  This is not negotiable - it is a must.

Well done to those that have had an input into this well thought out solution.  I just hope that others that agree with it make their voices heard loud and clear.
Have you learned lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you?  Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed the passage with you?  (Walt Whitman 1819-1891)  American Poet

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 221 Dated 29 August 2014
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 02:24:18 PM »
It is very disappointing to read that the Waikato Council thinks license checking is revenue gathering. They do not have to take prosecutions, nor do they even have to report the cowboys, they simply need to enforce the rules and decline to pass work done by cowboys.  The Councils are at the rockface (so to speak) and should be there to help protect the public also. Does this mean that WDC does not check any licenses - builders, roofers etc.

I have also heard of a  Council wont take actions against plumbers who repeatedly use crap pipe - imported - that crushes underfoot. An d another that knows who the unlicensed guys are but wont take action because of the costs. 

Unless and until the Board changes the way they do things, Councils are forced to take action, we are not named for dobbing in the cowboys etc etc, the cowboys will remain

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 221 Dated 29 August 2014
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
I can see where you are coming from Wombles.

I haven't really seen anything from this Board that has corrected bad processes or procedures. They don't have the credibility and everything they do is treated with suspicion.

I must say I like the CPD scheme outlined by the Federation and especially where the identified issues are linked back into the apprenticeship scheme. All we need now is a Minister who will help the Federation push for change. 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 221 Dated 29 August 2014
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 05:09:35 PM »
hi guys, Wal what an excellent fellow practitioner to day. I didn't have time after reading it to make comment but i agree with everything that Jax has said, and by the way, well said Jax. There will be some `Malcontents 'at the board who will rubbish it but this is where we need to be headed. The other important item is that a `Federation 'supporter will be on the board soon, great stuff. (we will have to moderate our comments of the board when that happens), cheers   


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