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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #285 on: April 29, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »
So the present registrar can't find the file that the registrar before him said was extensive, perhaps the registrar before both of these registrars took it with him when he took a massive amount of info with him when they sacked him..........you couldn't make this shit up.....

Remember this poor man mentioned below.........any one know Ron Clark , poor bugger spent 2 weeks in intensive care, let him know about this wealth of evidence.

Wed, 12 Jan 2011 7:32p.m.
By Emma Joliff

A fish and chip shop owner injured in a gas explosion last year blames shoddy workmanship for the explosion which cost him his health, his confidence and his livelihood.

Ron Clark had to flee his Nelson fish and chip shop and spent two weeks in intensive care.

"An enormous bang, the wall went, the roof went, I'm standing there and the skins coming off my legs," says Mr Clark.

It took six months to rebuild the shop but he says it was all too stressful and he could no longer work. Mr Clark estimates between making a loss in selling the shop and the shortfall in rebuilding, he's more than $120,000 out of pocket.

"Basically I couldn't keep business going, it was all too much. You end up having to sell it and get out. eight years of work down the toilet."

The issue of gas certification was highlighted recently by the sacking of chief executive Philip Routhan, who claimed there were potentially hundreds of faulty gas installations in New Zealand.

"These guys get away with bloody murder, doesn't do his job, gets fired, goes back and says I want my job back. Well I'd like my shop back, I'd like my life back, Id like my health back, you know there are a lot of things I'd like back," says Mr Clark.

Mr Routhan's attempt to get his job back was rejected.

"If the authorities don't check the certification of all of these things then we might as well be living in a third world country."

The Department of Labour laid a complaint with the Plumbers, Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board after the blast," says Mr Clark.

The board says it's now completed its investigation and two men, aged 53 and 38, are due to appear at a Disciplinary Tribunal hearing in February.



Perhaps I can ask the next registrar....what a joke we have had for well over 10 years......

I am going to ask each and every new registrar to deal with it (same as with the other "public offices" that are trying to sweep this under the carpet)......I will reach a time where the new guy just wants to make a name for him/her self...a new broom sweeps cleanest.

You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #286 on: April 29, 2015, 08:56:17 PM »
This is the reality of the cover up........see below a link......



http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/shoddy-workmanship-blamed-for-gas-explosion--2011011218#comments



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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #287 on: April 29, 2015, 09:03:58 PM »
The link below doesn't work but if you google it, it is on the TV 3 website......


Interesting what the news clip says about the 38 and 53 year old facing a tribunal......I was 38 and face a charge for the chipshop......no one else has faced a charge for the explosion at a hearing.....Darnley was facing a charge, but it disappeared....

Listen to what the news segment says about dodgy certs and dangerous work....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #288 on: April 29, 2015, 09:14:21 PM »
The board says it's now completed its investigation and two men, aged 53 and 38, are due to appear at a Disciplinary Tribunal hearing in February.



So where did the charge go for Darnley? Remember this letter below........

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #289 on: April 30, 2015, 07:01:39 AM »
Just watching Paul Henery on TV 3......

Nick Smith just said that his main concern is to remove the bureaucratic red tape to allow the housing market to become affordable...........

How about removing ridiculous CPD, illegal taking of money from tradies ($2 000 000), cover ups, corruption and incompetence along with the red tape.

Most of all prevent the monopoly being set up in the Plumbing industry, where if your connected you can get away with all sorts of dangerous work and if you speak out about it you can be framed and set up. This is worse because as well as causing unnecessary cost it puts the public at risk at the same time.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #290 on: April 30, 2015, 07:13:12 AM »



Thank you for contacting Paul Henry.

Copy of your email:
Lets see if we can get some public exposure.....



Name: Paul Gee

Email: gspservices@xtra.co.nz

Subject: corrupt plumbers board

Message: Hi Paul, Please see a story of a cover up that puts the NZ public at risk and adds undue cost to building a home in NZ. http://www.plumbers.co.nz/forum/?topic=1810.new#new This link list some of the blatant evidence my family have witnessed and been subjected to. I have a huge body of evidence. Best Regards Paul Gee, 0274 33 33 50





I will push this until it gets looked at, every time the guard changes I will try the new replacement, until it gets sorted.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #291 on: May 02, 2015, 08:26:54 AM »
Just to keep all this together I have copied this comment to this thread, because I can send the link to as many people as I can, with over 7000 reads this seems to work, two things I can not abide are bullies and hypocrites I have encountered more than my fair share.....


How can we rely on an Ombudsman who appears to be so selective, he also wrote this below, but after receiving this email attached and all the evidence posted on here, he decided to use his discretion not to look at how I was investigated.....

 
 
First, what do I mean by evidence? My Oxford English dictionary tells me that the word comes via Old French from the Latin evidentia, meaning ‘obvious to the eye or mind’ – from videre, to see. This is revealing, since one of the most common criticisms of medical (or gas ?) regulators when a licensed doctor has harmed patients, is that the board turned a ‘blind eye’ to the available evidence.
 
And from another paper….
 
 
Finding effective ways to raise concerns within the health (or may be gas?) system is a particular concern. Too often, health professionals (or may be gasfitters?) who attempt to do so lack institutional support and are met by denial and resistance. Even external inquiry bodies learn to expect re-litigation of findings by interested parties, denigration by critics, and revisionism by subsequent commentators who did not hear all the evidence and sometimes seem wilfully blind to it!

* My additions in brackets.




It appears that the Ombudsman is there for damage control not fairness, fairness denied to the plumbers of this country....why not change the law to make it all legal.....oh wait there they did that to take 2 million dollars off us.......that's fair!

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #292 on: May 02, 2015, 12:12:58 PM »
Sent earlier today, I will let you know how I go.....




Dear Ombudsman,

 

I am appealing the use by Mr Patterson of using “discretion” in ignoring how I was, to use the term loosely, “investigated”, more a kin to being framed and set up as scape goat.

 

 

Please can you tell me why you think it is helpful to ignore such blatant evidence and please do this in light of your comments below,

 

 
First, what do I mean by evidence? My Oxford English dictionary tells me that the word comes via Old French from the Latin evidentia, meaning ‘obvious to the eye or mind’ – from videre, to see. This is revealing, since one of the most common criticisms of medical (or gas ?) regulators when a licensed doctor has harmed patients, is that the board turned a ‘blind eye’ to the available evidence.
 
And from another paper….
 
 
Finding effective ways to raise concerns within the health (or may be gas?) system is a particular concern. Too often, health professionals (or may be gasfitters?) who attempt to do so lack institutional support and are met by denial and resistance. Even external inquiry bodies learn to expect re-litigation of findings by interested parties, denigration by critics, and revisionism by subsequent commentators who did not hear all the evidence and sometimes seem wilfully blind to it!

* My additions in brackets.

 

And this comment not attributable to you

 

An abuse of discretion is a failure to take into proper consideration the facts and law relating to a particular matter; an arbitrary or unreasonable departure from precedent and settled judicial custom."[8] On appeal of an exercise of judicial discretion, "abuse of discretion" is a standard of review requiring the appellate court to find that the lower court's decision would "shock the conscience" of a reasonable person in order to reverse the decision below.

 

 

 

 

Yours Sincerely Paul Gee


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #293 on: May 02, 2015, 12:15:05 PM »
If nothing is done I will wait until the new replacement is in office and ask the incumbent to look at it, and keep doing it until someone takes this up.....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #294 on: May 04, 2015, 05:42:42 PM »
So the Ombudsman appears not to think Plumbers need any fairness, I wonder if we have any human rights......see below






Hi Ataraiti,

 

Supplementary to my previous email sent tonight, to back my story there is a stream on a “Plumbers forum” where I have shown some of the ignored and suppressed evidence.

 

I believe I was entitled to a fair unbiased investigation and hearing, but I was set up and an attempt to frame me was carried out. The Board had a history of a 100% conviction rate previous to my case and I don’t believe they expected me to fight this as I have. I think this is shown by the fact that no one to this day has been held responsible for a near fatal explosion, but I have lost my business, reputation and time with my family when I was forced to work away to support them for two years.

 

I believe my wife had her human rights denied her when they sent to my home child sexual abuse cases notes to prove their point on probabilities, my wife opened and read them as they were not marked of their vile content, they sent three cases to prove a point all three were of a deviant sexual nature, this caused my wife a huge amount of stress and upset.

 

I believe a citizen of this country, any country, deserve a unbiased “trial” and not to have their families terrorised by a government backed industry board.

 

The link to the evidence posted on the “Plumber’s forum” is below,

 

http://www.plumbers.co.nz/forum/?topic=1810.new#new

 

Thank you I look forward to your reply

 

Best Regards Paul Gee.

 


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From: Paul & Emma [mailto:gspservices@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2015 4:46 p.m.
To: 'Ataraiti Whyte'
Subject: RE: Matter Ref: ST105561

 

Thank you Ataraiti,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Sadly the information I have provided is just a snap shot and there has been further evidence come to light since.

 

Best Regards Paul Gee

 

 

 


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From: Ataraiti Whyte [mailto:AtaraitiW@hrc.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2015 1:34 p.m.
To: 'gspservices@xtra.co.nz'
Subject: Matter Ref: ST105561


 

4 May 2015

 

Dear Paul

 

Thank you for your email, which was received by the Human Rights Commission on 24 April 2015.

 

We apologise for the delay in response, are now considering your complaint and aim to contact you within 15 working days.

 

If you need to contact us, telephone 0800 496 877 or email infoline@hrc.co.nz . We are able to provide confidential services for interpreting in 42 languages, and NZ Relay Service for those with speech or hearing impairments.

 

Yours sincerely


Ataraiti Whyte
Infoline Operator / Reception
Enquiries and Complaints Team

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #295 on: May 04, 2015, 08:35:44 PM »
To the 28 guests, please leave a comment I am trying to open a discussion in an open forum whether it is acceptable for an innocent man who warned about dodgy work covered by dodgy safety gas certificates, issued by a government industry board, that ended in an explosion.....the industry board who had to add a disclaimer to these certs because of their incompetence.....then appoints than investigator who gave a license to the man they are protecting...........

Confusing I know, please take the time to read this thread and look at the evidence.

These people nearly gave my wife and I a nervous breakdown while they pontificate about public safety, when it is them who placed the public in harms way, especially after handing out a gas fitting licence flippantly to an un scrupulous connected person.

Please make this go viral and share share share, thank you. 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #296 on: May 04, 2015, 08:39:42 PM »
The Ombudsman who's mantra is " fairness for all "......has used discretion not to look at it, he took 2 years to tell me this....


Lets see what the human rights commission thinks of my human rights....

Are Plumbers inhuman??????????.....if you treat people as though they are inhuman, they tend to act like they are inhuman.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #297 on: May 04, 2015, 09:35:46 PM »
From the attached government fact sheet.....


The Office of the Ombudsman can also look into complaints about corrupt behaviour.


So I wonder why he used his power of discretion not to look at my huge body of evidence...

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #298 on: May 05, 2015, 09:15:55 AM »
hi guys/Badger, i think this says it all, cheers
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 What is bribery and corruption?
Bribery and corruption can take various forms, including secret commissions, kickbacks and other forms of unlawful payments. Corruption also encompasses a number of offences such as fraud, abuse of one’s position of power and money laundering.
What are warnings signs of corruption?
Some of the warning signs that your business has been exposed to corrupt activity include:
abnormally high profit margins
business arrangements that serve no apparent commercial purpose
reimbursement requests for undefined costs relating to goods or services
unusually high and unjustified commission payments
apparent ‘special’ treatment.


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #299 on: May 05, 2015, 09:56:44 AM »
You'll notice the Robbo that the apparent apparent ‘special’ treatment that has been meted out to me (in a persecution-ary way) and to Darnley  (in a protection-ary) way is undeniable.

The thing is..... in a system like this not one of us can be sure of a fair go or justice, you can only live in the hope that the bullies don't come after you. This is unacceptable.


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