I think the Ron Patterson from the Ombudsman says it best.....in a key note speakers paper, attached......

First, what do I mean by evidence? My Oxford English dictionary tells me that the word comes via Old French from the Latin evidentia, meaning obvious to the eye or mind –from videre, to see.

This is revealing, since one of the most common criticisms of medical regulators when a licensed doctor has harmed patients, is that the board turned a ‘blind eye’ to the available evidence.

Try swapping "licensed doctor " with "gifted gas certifying licence gasfitter".....have a read of a paper issued by the Ombudsman who is to use his powers discretion in not looking at this wealth of evidence....where some one nearly died.....that's fair aye!


So what is it in terms of plumbing? Because Mr Patterson has been given a lot of evidence and has used his powers of discretion not to investigate......which to me an untrained in law layman seems a bit hypocritical...


"Fairness for Everyone".......perhaps an addition of "An Illusion of" could be added to this motto......

But apparently I have over 1000 certs in my name....I could have had a look at $25 per certs.....


I didn't have 25 thousand dollars handy, so I never......

Belinda Greer if you remember was mentioned in the email from the Board lawyer saying that the pizza oven cert was never received.....perhaps some could ask her?

Dear Mr Gee

I am writing on behalf of the Prime Minister and Minister of Tourism, Rt Hon John Key, to acknowledge your email of 2 July 2015 concerning your issues with your complaint E80343.  The Prime Minister will not be getting involved as he relies on his Ministers and or other experts to resolve such issues

Thank you for taking the time to write to the Prime Minister and share your views.

Yours sincerely




What do you do when the minister responsible Nick Smith, does nothing? The Ombudsman uses his powers of discretion not to investigate.........where do you go?


I have not seen one ounce of fair play.......

I had tried to get this looked at for 6 years before someone nearly got killed in an explosion, I approached MP's, told my Master Plumber Assoc, told members at the two AGM'S I attended.

The explosion happened, the Board ignored blatant evidence, withheld photos that proved what I was saying (i.e. the pipe was lowered AFTER I installed it, the photos showed the bloody holes where the pipe WAS).....they still won't go after Darnley....spent 220k persecuting my wife and I, but spent less than 30k going after Darnley.

Right up until the hearing Nick Smith was backing me.....but when the hearing proved what I was saying....he totally backed off. I have waited over two years for the Ombudsman to "use his powers of discretion"...

I was lied about and publically humiliated.

Then the members of the of Master Plumbers who were part of this persecution,  but lost their place on the Board, went after me for my outbursts about this corruption........so I left Master Plumbers. The could only "discipline" me if I was a member.....they had ignored the master plumber ethics and rules in going after me and being part of the Board's persecution.


I now work in an industry where I am new and I am reminded I am new every single working day, I had my trade stolen off me...I had put in 25 years....




But Martin Sawyers says I should put all this behind me and get on with my life....I haven't seen "my life" since April 2009.....if anyone sees "my life"  I would love to know, tell him I been looking for him and I will happily have him back.

Nick Smith, wrote this letter 16th April 2011, the hearing was held 3rd to the 5th May 2011.......

Just three weeks before my kangaroo court where the evidence was withheld and the investigators mate who was chairing the hearing, closed down, etc etc....



What changed?

"Install Bayonets and test".....that's all I did.....all the handwriting on this side of the job card, the back side, you'll notice there are no fryers.....this is my handwriting......


Then on the front of the job card there are two types of handwriting the hand at the bottom of the "appliances" field is mine......


But the handwriting at the top, the writing for the fryers ......well according to the only handwriting expert in NZ......well that's Darnley's.

Check it out.....the samples below in attachments....and the opinion below.....




This job card was shown to the "impartial" (lol....must mean dirty as f****) investigator......

All known to the Board, but it would not be useful to relook at my case......no I don't suppose being shown for being corrupt would be useful to you.....



How would you like to loose everything in this manner?

I have identified several similarities between the 2 scripts these included.

•   Lower zone 'g' length and width of loop similar.
•   Return stroke on Lower zone of 'g' crosses at the baseline.
•   Minute hooks on the terminal stroke of 'N' in Nelson and 'F' in ' Fryer'.
•   Occasional pen lifts and partial letter connections eg 'Blue' 'Nelson'.
•   Constructional features of No 6 similar.
•   Baseline alignment ascends, then descends, eg 'John'  Nelson'  'Blue'  'seal'.
•   Connecting strokes similar garland type. eg  l and u in 'blue'. and a and w in 'Atawhai'
•   Zero on '90' elongated similar to zero in '04'.
•   Middle zone  proportions and measurements in relativity to the Lower Zones.
•   Pen pressure variable. Could be due to the type of pen used. Difficult to confirm on photocopys.
•   Full stops heavy pressure ,both scripts showed a mix of dashed and curved.
•   Slant on first stroke of '4'  in 'GT45' and '26/4/04' similar at 70o reclined.
Opinion

It is highly probable that the 2 scripts were of common authorship.The author is a versatile writer who is capable of using or adjusting his script to suit his circumstances. Both scripts were written with a different writing instrument.The writing surface and the the authors emotional and personal or medical  circumstances could have also affected the slight variation on the pictorial style of the script.

The above analysis is based on 2 short scripts on electronically submitted photocopys. More exemplars would be required to form a more definitive opinion.

Mr Hammond at the first of the interviews with myself turned up with normal "black and white" copies of pink original certs, but done on pink paper.....this totally disguised the FACT that a lot, the exploding chip shop included, had all different types of ink colours all over the pink copies.

I tried several ways to get hold of the original copies, I was denied under different points of law or cost, but eventually after several attempts I got them....loads of the certs from my time at Allgas were full of different colour inks, the only writing of mine was the signature.....bare in mind I had complained about dodgy certs for 6 years before the explosion and I discovered this ink issue BEFORE the hearing....

The investigators response was to go at look for "other jobs of concern"...he claims to have checked only 10%......but I have another letter from a board lawyer that says he checked three years worth of my work.


Now according to the investigator himself both the fryers were dropped off on the 24th of June 2003, but the certs "test date" is for the 15th, with the 15 in blue ink and the rest of the date in black, there are other blue ink entries too....this was of no concern to Mr Hammond what so ever...



By co-incidence the date of signature is My wife's birthday, the 26th June and we went away for it, it is a Thursday. But I couldn't prove that I was not at work that day....Mr Hammond didn't care, he said the only important part was the signature (which was mine)....he then threatened me with a hand writing expert to check the signature.....remember the job cards for this explosion........the ones below....Hammond had them too in his possession, he could have had those checked by a handwriting expert, but he didn't....

Darnley faced a charge for this explosion......but it disappeared.......no one has explained this to me yet.....


Here's the problem....your guilty......guilty as a guy caught carrying a TV out of a strangers window in the Board's eyes.....if you can not prove it, it ain't so....they will not believe you.....



Have a think of the certs you were signing back in 2003.....how much proof do you have.....


I have ALL this proof and the "Fairness for All" Ombudsman.....uses his discretion to ignore it.....how will you go if its you or the Board, or one of their mates or if the "other guy" can trump your connections......

It just simply isn't in my DNA to let this go.....





Hi Nick

Please can you let me know if you are to act on this body of evidence I have posted on this link below?

http://www.plumbers.co.nz/forum/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-236-dated-12-december-2014/1810/msg10048#msg10048

It is for a Plumber’s Forum, which has received over 14,800 views; I have posted quite a lot of the evidence that proves that I was set up as a scape goat and that the guilty walked free.

This happened in your constituency and it is now your portfolio, please can you tell me why you do not want this evidence acted upon?

Just to be clear, I have posted this email on this link and I will post any reply on the same link.

Also below is an email from John Key, apparently it is for you to deal with.

Yours sincerely

Paul Gee


________________________________________
From: J Key (MIN) [mailto:J.Key@ministers.govt.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2015 2:40 p.m.
To: 'gspservices@xtra.co.nz'
Subject: RE:



Dear Mr Gee

I am writing on behalf of the Prime Minister, Rt Hon John Key, to acknowledge your email of 24 October 2015 concerning your request for a transparent, independent inquiry into the plumbing issues that have affected you and your employment. Please be assured your comments have been noted.

As the issue you have raised falls within the portfolio responsibilities of the Minister for Building and Housing, Hon Dr Nick Smith, your email has been forwarded on to their office for consideration.

Thank you for taking the time to write to the Prime Minister.


Yours sincerely
A Ireton
Correspondence Manager
 
 
From: Paul & Emma Gee [mailto:gspservices@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Saturday, 24 October 2015 8:05 a.m.
To: john.key@national.org.nz; 'Info'; 'Registrar'; complaints@pgdb.co.nz; communications@pgdb.co.nz; 'Janis Adair'; Andrew.McCaw@ombudsmen.parliament.nz
Cc: 'Wal Gordon'; 'Allan Day'; 'Colleen Upton'; 'Lyndon Moffitt'; john.key@national.org.nz; Andrew Little; Ann Hunn; Nick 4 Nelson; paul@paulhenry.co.nz; Phil Twyford; Craig Hooper - Coolhead Productions Ltd; Office of Sarah Dowie MP; probono@equaljusticeproject.co.nz; 'Paul Luxton'; 'PGDB Competency Based Licensing'; bryngee@hotmail.com; 'Brendan Horan'; B English (MIN); 'Barry Forman'; Hon Clayton Cosgrove; Jacinda Ardern; johnscarry@xtra.co.nz; 'Neal and Joan Gauntlett'; TVNZ
Subject:
 
Dear Prime Minister,
 
……and others copied in.
 
1.   Please take the time to read this email it involves corruption that risks the NZ public’s health and safety. This is but the tip of a very large grimy ice burg. To not act on this, is to roll the dice with the people of this country’s safety, I ask you to call me on this. I believe the PGDB have and are trying to cover up a very badly administered gas certificate and licensing system.
 
2.   Some one nearly died in an explosion and even though I had tried to warn about dodgy certs covering dodgy work for 6 years before, I was singled out….I believe singled out BECAUSE I had tried to warn about this.
 
3.   My wife and I were subjected to a premeditated witch-hunt and have lost our business and our reputation and we were financially forced to sell our “only just” renovated, mortgage free very modest home in a very modest area, we owned all our vehicles and had no debt what so ever other than our monthly account at the plumbing suppliers. Our goal was to enjoy our young family.
 
4.   I had spent many years and a huge amount of money re-qualifying my trade, re-sitting exams and practical assessments, because even though NZ had a shortage of gasfitters and plumbers advertised on the immigration lists, very little of my fully trained apprenticeship was recognised by the Board.
 
5.   Our business finally died when the Board sent out a letter to all the additional sites of charges to an explosion, one of these letters had most impact, it was to the local high school in the then main centre of business. This letter said I was issuing illegal gas certs in Northland; I have never been to Northland.
 
6.   The Board have since apologised for this letter but the damage has been done, the Board also offered us $500.00 for this too, but I told them to donate this money to Ronald McDonald house in CHCH, I don’t believe they did this.
 
7.   After the Board’s biased and slanted hearing I was forced to work away, my wife and young sons spent the first 16 weeks of my absence living in a caravan with no running drinking water, nor a flushing toilet, my wife emptied the caravan toilet cassette at the local i-site and refilled water bottles for them to have drinking water. She never moaned once to me about this. My kids were toddlers.
 
8.   In fact she went pretty quiet for the months leading up to the hearing and just after the hearing, she went quiet just after receiving child sexual abuse case notes to prove a point in a plumbing context, after all we had been through she found it very threatening and I found her hysterical. She opened the unmarked package at home with no indication of the filth inside on its outside wrapper and very little clear explanation of why it was sent on the inside….After all we had been through she thought, in her hysteria, that it was some sort of threat. I found her this way when I came home. We had had the Board hanging over our head for over 2 years.
 
9.   After this kangaroo court, I worked away for two years, and lost two years out of our young son’s lives. I spent this two years going from job to job, living for months at a time in a caravan on an industrial site, bed and breakfasts and spent months living in a workshop, depending on where I could find work.
 
10.   My trade was stolen from me, even though I am a fully qualified certifying/craftsman plumber and gasfitter with a limited trade electrical license I struggle to find a decent employer within my trade and have worked for two years as a trainee in a totally different industry, where I am reminded daily that I am new and know little about this new industry. 
 
11.   My “punishment” is far longer and deeper than the Board’s official one dealt out after the hearing, the hearing where the hearing chair shut it down just as I was going to go 100% innocent, shut down by the friend and confidant of the so called impartial investigator, the same impartial investigator who gifted my ex boss, John Darnley his full certifying/craftsman licence with no formal apprenticeship served. Of Note this last charge out of 44 charges laid has recently been ignored in another case, so even by the Board’s own reckoning I did nothing wrong what so ever.
 
12.   This is the same boss I had complained about for the six years before the explosion, complaining about dodgy certs covering dangerous work, complained for 6 years before the explosion.
 
13.   This explosion was caused by a third hose sold to supply two fryers, this third hose was sold because the initial one had split before, it was sold after I worked there. Please see “3rd hose receipt” and “letter of period of employment”…..please compare the dates.
 
14.   John Darnley denied his own handwriting on the job card for these fryers, please see attachments. I say this because two people have checked one sample of the hand writing on this job card for the fryers that caused the explosion and a signed sample of Darnley’s handwriting. One of these people is a very experienced investigator and the other the only hand writing expert in NZ, if media releases are to be believed. Please see in attachments.
 
15.   All this evidence is available to the Board, but they appear not to want to go after the person that all the evidence point to.
 
16.   This apparent approach has been from the get go, the Dept of Labour actually complained about a certain certificate 345138 in their complaint made after the explosion, see attached.
 
17.   Now the Board claim that this cert 345138 was never received by them, see attached.
 
18.   But the so called impartial investigator says he saw the original, see attached….which is true?
 
19.   There is also a copy of cert 345138 on the Boards Fox Pro system. Of Note ALL copies available show a lack of a record of a test for gas leaks….at the site of an explosion, caused by a gas leak.
 
20.   I tried to prevent a situation for 6 years before an explosion nearly killed someone, a situation that I now am still paying for daily, I am 100% innocent.
 
21.   I have gone to the Ombudsman and waited over two years for him to use his discretion and not investigate it, I do not believe this is fair and feel that the word “An Illusion of” should be added to their motto of Fairness for “All”.
 
22.   No body will look at the legionnaire’s case I have also tried for years to get addressed, please see attached. This address is in the Minister responsible for this Nick Smith, this all happened in his constituency, the people who voted him in, were and I believe still are at risk from this mans work.
 
23.   Well now you all know just some of the cover up and corruption that has and I believe is still done at a risk to the NZ public. And the huge cost it has had on an innocent family that came to NZ for a better life for our kids.
 
24.   I bring your attention to a press release by Phil Routhan, the ex Board member and CEO of the Board. See attached titled “A former chief exec”.
 
25.   I admit it does appear that Mr Routhan’s comments made on the state and mismanagement of the PGDB’s FoxPro cert system is a manipulation of a situation for his own ends, in trying to keep/reclaim his job. But please remember he was very, very informed and had a huge amount of access to the FoxPro system and had a lot of experience in the trades. It is reprehensible that it happened under his watch and even worse that he held on to it for his own ends, but that does not make it untrue, I believe he would not have made these claims if they were unsubstantiated.
 
26.   I agree with Mr Routhan’s comments about the danger, and have been trying air these concerns for well over a decade, BEFORE the explosion.
 
27.   I think the Ombudsman and copied in ministers owe it to the NZ public to push to have this looked in to, this would be fair.
 
28.   An open transparent independent inquiry is well over due, please before anyone gets hurt.
 
29.   If you request, and provide me an email that will accept, and I am not exaggerating here, a massive amount of evidence I will provide to back these claims. Because of the corrupt actions inflicted on my family by these people I am not in a financial position to take this to court, but I still have my voice. Please listen.
 
30.   I ask you Dr Smith, with all due respect, what has changed in your opinion expressed in these letters attached, if anything your fears have been substantiated and proven beyond doubt, I am still the hard working, honest responsible man whom you met, what has changed for you? If anything now that you are the very minister responsible for this portfolio and its is in your constituency…. there is no-one better placed to deal with this corruption.
 
 
Yours Sincerely Paul Gee