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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2015, 06:48:27 AM »
Publicity, publicity, publicity.......if the greater general public knew, not just how I was shafted, but the way they choose who to shaft at the risk to the public's health and safety.

An incident will happen if all the ducks line up, if you have the right mixture of gas and a source of ignition.....its going to blow up, whether your mate sits on the Board or not.

I know of and have told the Board about a central heating job that has the potential to kill, they play on words and double speak not to look at it.....if I was in their position I would be around there in a shot, but they don't.....it is to gamble with peoples lives to not go look at this, this is reprehensible.

Guys it all about numbers, numbers firstly to get the media to look at it (so that's us contacting a TV show), then when the general public know.....they will be gone by lunchtime.

That or a full page spread in a national news paper, letting people know the basic FACTS, then direct them to a website with the details. I don't think they would even make lunch time.

Its about numbers and votes......if you think its is about truth and righteousness, then you're going to have a long wait until you get the exposure.

If you play them behind closed doors, on their pitch with their ref, they will contain you and flannel you.

We can PROVE and have Proven their huge short comings, but the ministers who can fix this do nothing, why? ........because they got more chance getting voted in if they contain it and say, "nothing to see here".....well there is heaps to see, we just got to show as many people as we can.
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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2015, 07:02:11 AM »
I am pretty sure if all the people who read this contacted a show like Campbell live or something similar, then someone would pick it up, if more people came forward with their stories about these goons, someone would pick it up.

If the general public knew that the reason a plumber/gasfitter/drainlayer/ and soon to be builders, etc are so expensive is because of the costs incurred on us, the reason that there aren't as many (leaving those who remain to have a small monopoly) as there once was, because they are being shafted, while others are protected.....they would be up in arms.

It is so wrong to let these people do what they do, so very wrong. The thing is they can't survive in full sunlight, in the public eye they would embarrass themselves, can you imagine Mr Pederson repeating the bullshit mentioned below concerning the "missing cert"......

"Well Mr Campbell the only evidence that we had received the cert at the site of  the explosion was that it was entered on our system, I can even tell you the date, but you see we can't find it, so we could never have had it, it wasn't registered"....."Well Mr Pederson that sounds like bullshit and I think someone put it in the shredder"

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2015, 09:18:51 AM »
hi guys, Badger, we/you would have to drag these people into court to answer charges because the board or others will not be interviewed by tv3 Campbell Live, they will just ignore and close ranks. Legal advice would be a good start put all that evidence to a good lawyer and see what he comes up with, those are my thoughts so maybe others will have better advice,cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2015, 05:49:50 PM »
I am more than happy to, if we can source a lawyer count me in, I'll travel up, I have tried but you mention pro bono and they loose interest, money talks mate and I got cleaned out, I have only my bare hands left to use....

I reckon we could pick a top ten, and I don't mean just mine, but all of it...the RRC, CPD, all that, any others who have a horror story like mine,  look at all the amazing work the Feds have done, proven them all wrong so many times.

Perhaps, just something to consider.......they got Al Capone on tax evasion, perhaps the total witch-hunt they put on me could be used, I am more than willing to join in.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2015, 05:52:53 PM »
I still do think it would be enough to get it on Campbell live, their "not fronting up" would speak volumes mate, I still believe whole heartedly if the public knew what I KNOW, they would be up in arms.

Publicity would be just the start, then go to court....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2015, 06:23:21 AM »
Well I just heard Nick Smith vow to lower housing costs.....a house price now in Auckland is higher that L.A. I am sure the Feds can show you a few ways mate...


Anyway back the "thorough investigation".....well according to Max Pederson anyway, and as everyone (Ombudsman, MPs) points to his opinion in a 33 page report (excerpt below on the ludicrous opinion on the "non registration of a cert at an explosion)......here is some more ignored blatant evidence.....

This letter was sent by Allgas, all in the full knowledge of the investigator and the Board, I left in the December before, this was sent the following March....it shows a willingness by Allgas to act in my name, to change the details on a cert.....

Properly investigated my arse....



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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2015, 06:27:31 AM »
I got this letter from the Board when I finally got, after many attempts to get copies of the certs.....I immediately told them it was not mine....I got a letter back saying I was being vexatious... f****in right I am vexed...fuming actually, but I didn't say it to stir trouble I said it to bring a fact to your attention, to show you blatant evidence....you bunch of cocks.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2015, 06:33:06 AM »
remember cert 299760, mentioned in Mr Pederson's 33 page report, the one where he says that they can't locate this cert as well as the explosion cert....

Well heres a copy of a photo of the suppliers copy.....taken at the suppliers......notice the accepted cert has no test results......(shredder alert)

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2015, 06:41:52 AM »
oops sorry that's the electrical cert copy from the Boards website.....notice the cert has no leak test results......


When I brought this to their attention, they added the disclaimer(read again about responsibility regarding certs)

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2015, 06:47:23 AM »
actually there were several certs that they couldn't find, check out their lack of test results......now remember they were ACCEPTED by the Board.......and it is us that need CPD....cocks.

This one is a backpackers where you might send your kids on a holiday, there were about 11 like this I only asked to see 150, not a good test selection, but Maxy boy reckons there is no problem because their selection ,the ones they picked randomly (lol) showed nothing of concern...what a crock of shite....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2015, 06:53:45 AM »
They couldn't find 11 out of the 150 that I requested......which was really helpful because it highlighted to me which ones to photograph at the suppliers......have a guess what they were all missing......go on have a guess......


But it is me who has no comprehension about the importance of the cert system......I got copies of more which have the missing info highlighted with vivid.....still accepted, by highlighted.....

Now you wonder why they have lost the cert system.....

I got heaps of shit like this, but I am the one living in a run down house with no business.....slagged off in my local paper......now lets look at that "dealing with unreasonable people" policy again...hmmm ?????

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2015, 06:57:44 AM »
Apparently the Ombudsman has no problem with this......remind me why we have an Ombudsman again, is it containment or fairness....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2015, 02:51:35 PM »
How can Allgas sent letters in your name when you no longer work there.  Isn't that fraudulent activity?  Why didn't they simply alert the Board to the error in address under their own name, saying they were the company that did the work?  I do not understand why they would so something so silly as to sign the letter with your name when you were clearly not there?

Also I do not understand how these certificates are valid without the test results.  Any other gasfitter working on these properties cannot be sure that they were left legally safe at the end of the job given that no test results were filled in.  How can these have gotten through the system?  So simply the Board are a repository for Gas Certificates, not the safeguarders of the public?  I accept that probably they do sampling, but if your assertions are correct, and I have no reason to believe they aren't then 11 out of 150 seems an unacceptably high number of a portion of certificates that have no test results, and I would think warranted a further look at the work at these addresses, simply to see what else might have been "forgotten".

I also would be concerned about a company that fraudulently produced a document in the name of someone that no longer worked there, no matter how innocuous the contents.  It does not speak well of them and their business practices.
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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2015, 05:31:51 PM »
Tip of the ice burg Jax...I have many many copies that have been accepted, probably why the investigator turned up with photo copies done on pink paper to hide the multitude of different colour pens used with different inks.....

Now here's one for you, look at the names on these certs and correlate the cert numbers, you'll find the cert numbers are the same, but let me direct you to the fitters and certifiers names.......

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2015, 05:39:57 PM »
Here's some more, look at the license number that is started then crossed out.....I an told me they did to him what they did to me, when he told the Board....they audited Ian......


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