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Offline Wal

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Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« on: April 10, 2015, 05:47:36 AM »
It's licensing time again – that time of year when the Board “sell” us the authority to work for the next 12 months. On 6 April 2015 the Federation calculated the licensing percentages based on the figures of that day in the Public Register - which should be accurate at all times according to the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Act 2006. Have a look as it is not good one week into the new licensing year. 50% of the tradespeople not licensed.

We are used to the trauma dealing with the regulation of our industry. Maybe a few of us could retrain and become Trauma Doctors.

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-249-dated-10-april-2015/1855/

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 01:32:52 PM »
hi guys,  (50% of the tradespeople not licensed) yes the board will hunt you down like DOGS then tip you upside down till MONEY falls from your pockets, just like they did back in the days of Robin Hood, beware of the Robbing Bar-stewards, cheers

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 05:29:11 PM »
i haven't paid,
 i will when i have the money,......... but i may not, ...........what can they do? and when?....what are the real consequences now that pgdb cant stop us certifying gas installations, like they did in the past.
 
i dont agree with what they are charging me and why the f..k should i pay when other trades are not?

i struggle with when did the plumbers gas fitters and drain layers in this country start paying what really should be paid by the public?
Did i miss that? does anyone know when this happen?
Have electricians been in a different boat all these years?
I believe in doing a job once and right. !

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 11:23:08 PM »
The Federation stance has always been "get legal or get out" - I don't think that has changed has it?  Bottom line is if you don't agree with the fees and levies then I hope you've put your opinions and reasons down in the consultation document.   It's always better to argue from the side of "right" than not.  The other thing is if you have customers then you owe it to them to be licensed when you do their work if you always have been otherwise it's a bit misleading on your part and certainly not fair to them.

The newsletter brings up a very valid point regarding the Gas Levy - the reason the sparky licensing fees are so low is that the EWRB work is subsidised by the electrical levy.  I am interested in why the Minister sees that it is ok for one regulated trade to have this sort of subsidy, but refuses is to another.   Is this fair?
Have you learned lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you?  Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed the passage with you?  (Walt Whitman 1819-1891)  American Poet

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2015, 09:11:25 AM »
I agree with the Federation view of get legal or get out and I've licensed this year because I don't want to stoop to the level of the Government.

The Federation rightly stated the clock is ticking and I'm one of the people its clicking for so March next year is it for me unless there is change or a sign of change. I'm turning my back on the regulation of the industry because it is not fair or equitable.  We live in a world of user pays and we are paying when we are not the user.

In reality what does the Minister and Board think they are achieving. We have endured their bullshit for long enough so either they change or we do. They have the law on their side - we have the skills. Will the laws clean a blocked drain, put gas on to a heater or get rid of the waste from a house - no but tradespeople can. The public need our skills - we have the skills.

At the end of the day they have nothing we need except a card which we buy to say we can work but we have what the public needs. I'm sick of paying overall costs equal to a months wages just to license and do the CPD shit.     

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2015, 09:20:43 AM »
hi guys, in the Fellow Practitioner this week :The Speaker's delegation has just left on a business class trip costing $138,000, (John Key believes MP travel is legitimate and he doesn't have the power to stop spouses going)
I believe he also said that it would not be right to (wait for it)  `retrospectively` change the law to stop it.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 05:53:34 PM »
That comment wasn't lost on me either. Obviously it's ok to screw over plumbers and all Kaipara residents but not your colleagues.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 249 Dated 10 April 2015
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2015, 08:57:46 PM »
Hi everyone.

Yes this is one of the frustrating issues where there are a number of sets of rules which the Government pick depending on the situation. It just shows theses people for what they really are and when honest people stand up to them for fairness and equality they get tabled as malcontents.

I don't know what has happened to the people in Government but I certainly don't believe they should use the title Honourable weather historical or not because the traits of honesty, integrity and morals supporting civic duty seem to be missing.


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