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Offline Wal

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Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« on: July 24, 2015, 06:18:50 AM »
We know we constantly hold the Plumbers Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board accountable in whatever way we can, but don't forget they follow Government policy and are answerable to the Minister of Building and Housing through their Accountability Agreement.

We get bundled in with other industries but yet there is still no equality and we get held to account for their problems where the cost is on us financially and personally.  How long do we put up with it?

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/fellow-practitioners-update/41/fellow-practitioner-issue-264-dated-24-july-2015/1893/

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2015, 06:54:23 AM »
And don't forget that my case happened in Mr Smiths own constituency.
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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2015, 08:27:20 AM »
Its a very good question "How long do we put up with it?".  I'm sick of the constant change because of others.

When you look the amount of work and the number of jobs done throughout the country the reported incidents are few and far between. Every time we get a new Chairman, a new Minister or a new CEO then they expect to start form zero again.  The past issues are never addressed and we are expected to put up with it. Well I think time is up.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2015, 09:20:28 AM »
hi guys, came across this quote/statement today on the net and was thinking it could be a fitting statement that applies to the Board, what do you all think, cheers
It could blossom into something great, but right now it's hamstrung by those who desperately need it to succeed the most.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2015, 01:47:06 PM »
I tried to warn about a a very real and bad situation of dodgy certs covering dodgy work for 6 years, when I was proven right....by an explosion....they tried to frame me for it.

When I beat all the 44 charges and I mean all, because I have proven that the last charge is bogus and is in any fact a non compulsory part of the regs being "enforced" by a chemical engineer who has never sat an apprenticeship nor worked as a gasfitter, but he was gifted his certifying status and was appointed to "investigate" me.....just as my ex-boss was gifted his certifying license (gifted by the same investigator mentioned above).....the same ex-boss who has all the evidence pointing to him for the said explosion mentioned above, who faced a charge for the explosion.....but this charge disappeared.

Well now I can't even make a compliant about the very real, and perhaps illegal, actions against me, see below in blue.


But the new Registrar calls all this "MY CASE",....like all that happened is just to do with me.........like I own it.....I believe it shows the complete aimed and premeditated attitude toward me.....its all mine.....even though there is heaps of evidence, it is referred to as MY case....


Well what about MY complaints?





I am laying a formal complaint against Mr Darnley’s involvement re- the explosion at the Milton Street Chipshop. I believe he might be responsible for this explosion and I am complaining about this so you can appoint an investigator to find out; please appoint an investigator that Darnley isn’t friends with or is a member of any groups that Darnley was/is a member of.
 

I would complain that Darnley didn’t register the pink master copy of cert 345138, while handing out the carbon copies to the customer and gas supplier.
 

I would also complain that all available copies lack a recording of a gas leak test, at a site that later exploded…..because of a gas leak, a gas leak on a hose supplied by Darnley’s company Allgas, weeks after I left Allgas. Please see attached receipt for this hose. Please note I left the year before in 2003.
 

I have reason to believe that it was Darnley who installed the fryers; please see the handwriting samples supplied to you just recently also attached.
 

I would also complain that after altering my initial install and changing the gas cylinder supply set up and changing the hose ( the hose mentioned above, the one that caused the explosion) that a further certificate wasn’t issued.
 

I hope you do not take your previous stand that my having faced charges for this debacle protects Darnley in someway from my complaint, you have said that you can’t revisit my case; please open a new case, one that is fair and transparent.
 

I would also take this chance, to yet, again lay a complaint about the legionnaire’s risk, installed by Mr Darnley. Please see attachment, this dwelling has central heating with radiators, an impossibility with out contaminating the hot water supply when heated with the califont on the cert. You have this blatant evidence, please act on it. It is very dangerous plumbing and this is your jurisdiction, no one else’s. Please note it is that time of year where the thermostatic heads on the radiators are opening and the 11 year old water is being atomised by the elderly mans shower (any plumber worth his salt would know this to be a ticking time bomb, a matter of when not if there will be an issue, it has the potential to kill.)
 

And I would also complain about the manipulation of the gas certificates at Powick Street, by my reckoning it is missing at least 2 certificates for work carried out, and as far as I know it still has the lpg cylinders on the deck, this was of such concern that the Board laid charges against myself. As I have proved that it was impossible for me to have done this, I would complain about the person who did. According to your correspondence you have made no other contact to the owner of Powick Street, other than the letter that said I was capable of acting illegally in Northland which was sent out before my hearing, my hearing showed this manipulation and the Board have done nothing. Just for the record I have never been to Northland.
 

Again, I hope you do not take the stand that my having faced charges for this protects the person responsible in someway and you can’t revisit my case, I am not asking you to revisit my case, please open a new case, one that is fair and transparent.
 

Also I would complain that even though someone nearly died because of bad, very bad gasfitting and shoddy practices, that no one has been held responsible for nearly killing Ron Clark.
 

I am appalled that even though Darnley didn’t sit an apprenticeship the Board saw fit to gift him (and others) his/their full craftsman/certifying status, I would complain about this flippant issuing of a licence that resulted in empowering a person not fit to practice, that at least once has ended in an explosion.
 

Also Kern Uren stated at my hearing that Mr Darnley had an extensive file, please by way of an OIA request can I get a copy of this extensive file and the basis for gifting Darnley his licence, please blank out all names as I do not want to invade anyone’s privacy. I am willing to cover the photocopying cost.
 

And my last complaint is that the Board have covered up a badly administered gas safety certificate and licence system that resulted in a near fatal explosion, I complain about this dereliction of duty.
 

I believe all the above are reasonable grounds for laying these complaints.

 

 

 

Regards Paul Gee







I BELIEVE IT IS AN EXAMPLE THAT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE, AND TO IGNORE THE PAST CONDEMNS YOU TO REPEAT YOUR MISTAKES, AND TO TRY AND COVER IT UP UNTIL TODAY SHOWS THAT THE ATITUDE IS STILL THERE.

THE WORST PART.....AT A RISK TO THE PUBLIC.....SO SO VERY WRONG







 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 264 Dated 24 July 2015
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 01:57:10 PM »
Not one of the complaints have never been addressed, unless you call trying to frame me for them....addressing them?


There is, to the best of my knowledge an elderly man showering in the water that has spent months shut in his radiators all summer.....

The Board do nothing......

Even after, just recently, a poor lady looses her feet and maybe her fingers to legionnaires disease, this badly/dangerously installed central heating system mentioned above, shows that my ex-bosses reputation means more to the Board than the publics health......

What happens when this unconcerned elderly man sells this place to an unsuspecting family and they put their kids in that shower?


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