We got emails at work with user names that were registration numbers with the 0 missing and a log on password.  Our IT providers contacted me about 60 emails from Certs on line that were addressed to different gasfitters - when I got him to read me out some of the names they were guys I knew from Auckland, Palmerston North and Christchurch - somehow all sent to one of our emails addresses at work.  The idea behind Certs on Line is not a bad one, but I would like it much more if we knew who was running it and they were a little more careful with the information.

All of what they have could have been gained from the public part of the PGDB register - so no issues there, it's just that they should have had an email introducing themselves and telling us who they are - and also a bit more about the security of the site, who owns the information if the data base is secure or going to be on sold etc.  A good business idea that could go tits up if they don't explain a bit more I think.

its owned by a guy called jonathan Orbell in whitianga also owns a plumbing company there called highflow ltd

I doubt they will be offering this service for free. Why would you want to pay for a certificate of compliance and gas safety certificate that you can produce and issue (electronic or paper version) for free yourself?
You have to retain the certificates and job information for 7 years yourself anyway.

hi John, what are the costs involved,cheers

Bloody typical of the Government and their incompetent departments as the weekend before a major change to energy safety/ gas certification they close down their web site.


Energy Safety’s online services will be temporarily unavailable from 9:45pm Friday 28 June 2013 (NZST) while work on the igovt logon service is changed over to the RealMe login service.  Normal access should resume on or before 8:30am Monday 1 July 2013 (NZST).  We apologise for any inconvenience.”

I had similar problems registering mate, but that's what it looks like to me Peasea, if high risk is anything done outside of the regs (by default anything inside of the regs isn't high risk?) and only extensions to an existing install are high risk .....

What happens if the pipe work in the original un-certed installation is faulty (perhaps hidden in a wall, done by someone who's issued a "made up" cert, who might even be unqualified, remember these installs are in houses not tents.....they should be there for decades, good luck tracing down someone 15 years after NOT  registering a job or officially certing it)......

......and then you add to this install and cert it....and THEN you have a problem with the original un-certed pipe....and the only official cert is in your name and the original guy has disappeared......who are they going to go after......

I can here people now saying what's the odds on that happening....well what odd's would you gamble your livelihood on???

Believe me just being accused is enough, even if you prove you have done nothing wrong.

Same Craftsman, I have asked and asked, but just keep getting referred to the same press release.....Please can someone clarify.

Seems to me, when your setting a minefield, you don't give out the plans of the minefield willy nilly..... just to your mates.

Why can't we have it black and white..... you DO do this and you DON'T do that....plain and simple.

Mandatory and non mandatory, descriptive and normative, high risk and low risk (with a general work thrown in for good measure).....bloody hell, keep it simple, we can all read a book with a index and use a tape measure....but where's the money in that if everyone gets it right (which incidentally would be a huge benefit in keeping the public safe, which is their goal?). If we make no mistakes how could they force CPD on us and charge us to finance the prosecution anyone, at all, that picks up a spanner.

There are so many grey areas, but you can't get a straight answer....until your up in front of a disciplinary hearing....then they are full of opinions....man, you can't stop them having an opinion, and lying and withholding evidence.

Like they said its not economically viable to give out advise......but there is money in f****ing you over.