I have another question....do I have to issue a gsc for serving a gas fire?, I don't change anything, just pull it apart, clean it and reassemble, and test it.... gsc?.
and if the answer is yes, I am going to have hundreds of customers that are pist off as I will need to charge for the extra time and paper work, and I cant give gsc away for free!!! they take time and  money .... I will be charging a fair amount, that I would love to tell you all but I don't believe I am allowed to do that!!!!!!

So how much are all you honest law-abiding professionals going to charge for a GSC?.......or should I say how much of a discount are the cowboys going to take off?? $50-$60....Storing photos, and legal documents and not to mention a huge liability and extra time taken.


I can see it now...... how much for cash and no paper work.......gosh that's much cheaper than the last guy he was going to charge me tax, GST and GSC.....thank you Keemo Sabby......Tonto Plumbing and Gas Ltd .....your a bargain.

Hi Ho Silver away......

And don't forget if you do nothing wrong they will still ruin you anyway and risk the health of the public while they are at it......what a career, what an industry.


And when we all leave the industry that is being strangled.........the people backing this crap and bringing it in.......well they get to mop up all the profit.

If these goons think that a new house is expensive now....wait until they do it to all the other trades. You have been warned.

Think on this......compare the income and future liability of......

the cashie guy....... and the legal guy.....on a service job of say $50......

Legal guy....... $50 job, a GSC of $50... all plus gst, = $115 (cost to customer) and then take off income tax of say 20%....= $92 income (for legal guy) with full liability (but you have contributed to the running of the country and the feeding of Rht Hon Williamson)

So customer pays $115 and the legal guy with full liability for at least 7 years..... pockets $92.

Cashie guy....no liability paper trail....charges $100 to customer....pays nothing toward the country....


The cash guy is cheaper to the customer and he pockets more.......

What do you think this will this promote? and don't forget no one finds out until there is an incident. More cowboys perhaps? that need the Board to chase after them? reaffirming the need for Board's existence? To chase these cowboys? Hmmmm......


And the guys who are promoting and backing this shit will have the ability to set the dogs (of the Board) on to their opposition whether they are working illegally or not, whether they are guilty or not (see my case)......and so they will get the lions share of the legal work...which they will charge handsomely for....because they have to pay huge compliance costs....because of all the cowboys out there being chased by the Board, which we are now funding for this Board to chase these cowboys.....and so the cycle continues until you have a small expensive set of legal plumbers and gasfitters, funding their own protection racket/stand over guys of the Board, to take out the opposition...legal or not.

Welcome to the future of our trade guys....only choice you have is to oust this now....or decide whether your new customers want fries with that burger or want to king size it. 

What will this do to the cost of building and maintaining housing???

Defn. Raketeering:

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Master Plumbers anyone?!?

I don't think the people that conceived this idea knew just what a bastard they were making - and the costs to the consumer.  It is a joke.  I would love to see the project leader stand up in front of practitioners now and justify why they had to bring this system in.

Badger - I love your comments re "would you like fries with that or king size it" becasue you have captured the possibilities so well.  Gasfitters are walking around like stunned mullets at the moment as it all sinks in.  We have started to do our first GSC's and COC's - I've put the prices up - and we will see what happens.

All queries around prices will be directed to ESS.

Perhaps Campbell Live need to revisit their story about increased prices to consumers - forget about charging like doctors and lawyers, let's charge like surgeons and judges!!

I've been discussing this today with the company I work for and you can tell that they haven't grasped the reality of the situation were in now and I know a lot of other tradesmen in the area who won't have a clue about doing a gas safety cert for servicing. You would think that this should be explained in great detail to all involved but from my own experience unless your a member of the federation or come on this forum people just ain't got a clue what's really going on and they seem to have there head in the sand whilst paying ever increasing costs.

I have thought hard and long as to what to do about this gsc for servicing work, we do a lot !! .
we have decided to gsc  very thing we do and we WILL be charging cert level fees for the paper work,....we simply have no choice!!   this WILL double the basic service $$$$

what we WILL be doing is with EVERY invoice we WILL be advising ALL our customers that if they feel they have been over charged to complain to ES.
would anyone know who I should direct my customers too   that would help no end.
personally.... I have had a guts full. I feel like a Muppet having my strings pulled.. 

what a complete dogs breakfast this has become, does the federation have templates for gas safety certs and the other certs needed now?