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Offline joe

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Installation not certified
« on: November 14, 2012, 09:10:54 PM »
If i install a cooker in an existing installation that is safe and sound but is not certified.When i certified the cooker does the whole installation become my responsibility or do i certified the other appliances and heaters and take responsibility for someones work

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 10:01:43 AM »
good question joe, i hold my lisense and have done for a number of years and have heard this asked before with differing answers, as far as i would think you are only certifing the appliance you put your name to, but should something go amiss i would think the board would hold you accountable as the last known gasfitter to the address.

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 01:02:14 PM »
hi guys, before you start you will need to test the system that is already in place. If you find a fault you will be able to add it to your job after pointing out the fault to the owner. When you have installed your bit and tested that all is fine you can do no more, you only have to certyfy the new install, thats my spin,cheers

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 09:39:02 PM »
I agree with Robbo - you test before you start and notify the owner of any issues or leaks - if it isn't safe and the owner doesn't want to do anything then you have two choices - do nothing (I don't recommend this one), ore report it as an uncertified job to the PGDB.  If it is sound then do your installation and only certify the work you have done (I would take photos and also put notes in the bottom of the cert explaining excatly what point your work starts and finishes from).  I presume the work is recent and would not have been done pre-certification time when it was still under gas inspectors?  This does account for some addresses not showing up gas certificates (that and cock ups).  Sometimes when you are checking on the PGDB website you need to remember to check on more than the front page, and also that the street name is spelled correctly (sometimes the street name is spelled incorrectly on the gas cert and is filed under the incorrect spelling).  So essentially you do need to check for soundness and safety, but you only certify your work - and if there is anything non compliant or unsafe then you need to notify the PGDB and/or ESS.
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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 10:50:31 AM »
I reported this to the board,they pretty much did"t care.They said just make a paper trail between them and owner job done.FU## that so i found out who done the job,found out that the person wan"t a gasfitter just a plumber.Phone the board got told that i would have to make a complaint, they would send my letter to the plumber with my name on it asking for his reply.Thought about it FU## it just do it.Next the board ring , we have your complaint what do you want us to do.PULL HAIR OUT.Stop this plumber from doing uncertified work.Month latter board ring do u want to a point a investigator, high court ,district court what do u want us to do,pretty much talk out of it like they did not want to do anything.I was over it by then they just ending up writing the plumber a letter please explain.Plumber responds sorry i will get someone to certified the job.Case close.So when i am driving on the road and get pull up for no licence.It is all good to say my mate has got a licence , he said i could drive.Case close.Year right So i sent all this time and money to get my licence ,then time and money to have my licence.Just so people can do gas then get caught and say i will get my mate sign it off.It was my first time of dealing with the board after paying them money for many years. Then to have this complaint just brush under the carpet FU## me off.They wanted to talk me out of it and to do FU## all. A slap on the hand with a wet bus ticket is good enought.That is what they do with our hard earn money I took the time to investigate they did not want to

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 11:26:08 AM »
thats shit house joe - send all the info to your mp as well as the mp in opposition, media and local council - did you record the names of those you dealt with at the pgdb board?

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2013, 11:57:24 AM »
you got to ask who does this other guy know, whats his affiliations, membership, etc..

With this corrupt and incompetent Board....its all about who you know not what you know.

If your in the click, you can do as you like.....just out of interest was he a Master Plumber??
You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: Installation not certified
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 08:48:16 AM »
probably.......,the two go hand in hand these days
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