hi guys/a,gas, i don`t see why that could`nt happen because companies carry insurance to cover problems such as the case in which Paul Gee is involved, still after 2013 with no certs there will be nothing to sign. I would`nt be a bit supprised to see "Certifying" replaced either the company should be the certifier end of,cheers

hi guys/ts, level playing field is a matter of opinion. I personally charged $65 for certs,$25 to buy $40 for the time and distribution to other parties. I know of one company who charged $120 and also know of another who charges $150, don`t know what will happen when they bring in self cert for plumbing and drainage,cheers

Hi guys personally I charge $140 which covers the cost of my yearly upskilling i do know of a company who were 3 years ago charging $300. TS I know at this stage that there is nothing to say that you have to put Testing and Commissioning but as these are 2 skills that only a certifier can do you would recognize that there must be a charge for this. Also you must realise that there is more paperwork with any type of statement of installation in any form so the admin cost will be passed on as each company will have to develop and implement there own system. This will also be required to cover the Gasfitters arse (see pgdb and there big stick approach).

As you say it won't be a level playing field if all company's don't do this WELCOME to cowboy heaven you think we have dodgy installations now wait until this comes in. Sad to say it will take a couple of deaths to make council inspectors and the Suits to see sense (I personally hope it is one of them that is the first)

I imagine a lawyer would charge on his Knowledge of the law just as a plumber gasfitter or drainlayer would and just to help that statement along we are in a position that if we get it wrong we will kill far more people than a lawyer or even a doctor could

it is all down to honest people with integrity enforcing a fair system, piece of paper or not, and we do not have such a system, its about who you know and who you've pissed off, it is personal and involved.........and a load of bollox, i SUPPOSEDLY GET MY RESULT ON MONDAY, CAN'T WAIT BECAUSE THEN I CAN REALLY START TO GO TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE.

Ed - we're not running out of gas that fast!!  From a domestic perspective there is heaps of gas - and gasfitters services will be required for a long time to come.  It is a shame that this system as it works now is going to be handed over to MED who I think are making the framework up as they go along.  While there are a number of negative comments on this forum about the PGDB - the one thing that runs fairly smoothly is the gas certificate regime.  I fear the new system coming in around 2013 will mean it will be easier for member's of the public to be hoodwinked by un licenced tradespeople.  A record of installation can be done on an invoice, by a form a company or individual make up themselves - at least with the cert system now if you aren't curently licensed you can't even purchase a cert - so the customer has some level of assurance.  Like a lot of things - the baby has been thrown out with the bath water and I don't believe the users of this sytem i.e. the public and practitioners were ever truly consulted properly.  The men in suits have had a field day with this one - with the idea that it will reduce costs to consumers.   I'll eat my hat if that comes to pass.

Visit the MED website and you can now view the full list of submitters and also the content of the submissions - very interesting.