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bbq's indoors?
« on: September 22, 2014, 09:26:15 PM »
Wondering what the go is with this?

Is it legit to install an outdoor bbq appliance as an indoor cooker?

anything in 5601 to suggest that it is not possible?

- not run off bottle but flexi to bayonet
- exhaust flue
- make up air
- seismic restraint

- maybe a gas/leak detector actuating a solenoid?




anyone have solid experience with something like this? any help appreciated



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Re: bbq's indoors?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 04:26:20 AM »
I think the answer is NO, it's not legit.  It goes against the manufacturer's instructions i.e. for use outdoors.  That would over ride everything I think.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 10:21:06 PM »
thanks jax - have yourself or anyone you know gone to a manufacturer and asked the question?
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 08:00:26 PM »
Speaking from the point of view of "  landlord of tenants who BBQ'd in the lounge" - don't do it :-(    We had to repaint and recarpet.  It never occurred to me that eejits would do this as well as dismantling cars in the lounge.  I have learned from this.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 08:01:10 PM »
Speaking from the point of view of "  landlord of tenants who BBQ'd in the lounge" - don't do it :-(    We had to repaint and recarpet.  It never occurred to me that eejits would do this as well as dismantling cars in the lounge.  I have learned from this.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 10:18:34 PM »
I know we reported someone who did their own gasfitting and put an outdoor BBQ in a caravan to bake cakes on at the fair.  I haven't asked the manufacturer, but I would imagine if you could get something out of them in writing that you could attach to the cert you might be ok.  Chances of getting that - 0% I would think.  I am interested though to see how you get on.  Second question is - Why? 
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 08:08:54 AM »
LOL @ wombles! how the other half live aye?!?



Basically an older lady has been making home made fudge's, truffles - old world treats so to speak - but she has been using her bbq as a hotplate as it gives a very nice even heat to her pan/pot for the cooking process to the point where she says it is perfect and does not want to use anything else - so basically I am investigating it as an option.

The other thing I have thought of over and above what I outlined earlier is maybe you would need a fan proving system?

That got me thinking there must be separate NZS for indoor cooking appliances and outdoor cooking appliances?

The main difference I can see between them is a indoor hob kind of has a sealed base and obviously 99% have flame failure.

Is it possible to retrofit flame failure to any appliance?




I am thinking it is going to be cheaper and easier to just find a suitable hob with a hotplate - especially as the manufacturer went bankrupt so the question cannot be asked - technical support has fallen to another company but they do not want to know about it.

Thanks for the replies guys - much appreciated!
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 03:23:22 AM »
Again, altering the manufacturer's specs can only be done with their permission otherwise I don't think you can certify.  (With reference to your comment about flame failure).  Is the fudge good?
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 05:28:39 PM »
Hi intergrated,

 I would suggest you look at commercial hot plate, ie blue seal etc if that's what your customer wants.
its a bbq that's designed for inside  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2014, 09:07:12 PM »
Hi guys - yes will be looking for a purpose made unit - don't get to try the fudge until the job is finished!!
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