Being thinking alot lately if it may be time to move on to something else

In a nutshell I have pretty much had enough - from start to finish the plumbing industry just seems to be falling to pieces

some of my pet peevs that are doing my head in!!

Illegal work - guys plumbing without license
guys undertaking "cash" work (i know one guy this yr so far has put almost 40K through WTF?!?)
2-3 yrs to get to licensed/registration, another 2-3yrs to get to certifying/craftsman - when is the doctorate certificate sent out?!?
now we have cpd's that we have to pay for
cpd's that are administered by suppliers? WTF gives some unqualified twat the right to have any sort of say over my livelyhood?!?
licensing costs - 1 is not so bad but when your up to 3 its getting to be a joke - soon enough you will have to be licensed for roofing also!
councils - jumped up know-alls that go out of their way to find something wrong with anything
clients not paying bills
builders - and in particular housing firms screwing everyone for every last penny
master plumbers is a joke - this coming from a member and someone who was pro MP - this crap with cpd's and there off-shoot companies is unethical and immoral and it sickens me to think this is going on in this country


Im struggling to grasp at how quickly everything has turned to crap?!?

plumbers average wage in NZ 50-70K
possible earnings In Australia 100-150K+
In Europe/Britain 200K+

why on earth is anyone still here?!?




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hi guys,can`t agree more, after fair play and democracy has failed what do we move on to? 

Indeed Integrated - maybe it is!  I think if you really want to start somewhere to see change then getting signatures on the Petition that the Federation is launching will be a start.  This industry has a lot of challenges, but one thing it doesn't lack is passion.  No matter where you sit in the argument, no matter which thread of the industry you belong too - it doesn't take much scratching to unearth an opinion or ten from most practitioners.  This is a good thing.  Now we just need to get the opinions and use them as fuel to  motivate some action.  We need to push for change and we need to see it soon.  This constant message from politicians and our regulator that things will take time is becoming tiresome.  How much time is reasonable - a year, two years, six months?  We've been patient and patience has got us no where.  The annual report of the PGDB is out soon and we will be able to see where our money has been spent and what they believe they have achieved.   

You know if you come across people working without a licence it really is important that they are reported.  They are stealing your livelihood and mine.  They don't have the same costs that we have and they will undercut us on every job.  By not saying anything we are supporting them.  If you are uncomfortable doing this then at least educate your customers and friends about how to check if someone has a current licence.  Tell them about the PGDB website and how anyone can log on and check.  This way the message will be spread and these rogues in the industry will be shut down.  I thought the PGDB had made a commitment to undertake a campaign to educate the public on using licensed practitioners.  I've seen the odd small ad here and there, but nothing major.  In the end it's up to every plumber, gasfitter and drainlayer to educate the public and protect themselves in to the bargain. 

hi guys/barry, yes it seems that anything is possible if you can afford to employ a clued up lawyer. As you say there are existing laws to protect the public without a kangaroo type judge/jury/executioner (the board) court creaming it over simple administration type mistakes,cheers

As far as I am concerned we need to have a national hikoi for ALL tradesman and get as much coverage as possible, tell every trade you see or work with.

It wasn't just my association that snubbed me, but the CEO as well, and the association sectary actually snooped on my work for the Board, for a fee I'm guessing, I wonder what the going rate is for your soul these days, and the president of my association said that I had brought it all on my self.

My crime............trying to get a dodgy boss looked into 5 YEARS BEFORE an explosion NEARLY KILLED SOMEONE by telling my association and the board. Not realising it was apparently/allegedly the same dicks that gave him his licence after JUST one oral exam, please send in the defamation lawyers if this is not true, the thing is if it is true, then its bloody true and I can say it as much as I like.

Even in a slanted one eyed kangaroo court I was found 95% in the clear, and believe me they would da if they could da, and the other 5% is very questionable and we will see what a real court thinks of it.

I haven't seen my kids and wife for weeks, my business is f****ed along with my reputation and my house for sale. What they don't realise is when you take all that off someone, they are left with what is really important, some will roll over, some you will subdue, ..me....well you just pissed me right off and I like a good stouch, it makes it all the more a privilege of what I have, with an understanding of what is important, my family.

 I got my back up, I am bristling and I haven't met one twat yet who I fear. I would rather die on my feet then suck up to morons on my knees, gloves are off.

We need to draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough, we live in the best place in the world and you are going to let these souless cowards tie you up in bureaucracy and make you leave, I for one think this place and potential lifestyle(with out the bollox) is worth the fight.

You imagine telling some poor sod in Somalia or the middle east, all you have to do is sign up with the federation go on a little march(DRIVING in an air conditioned van) up to Parliament to voice your right of freedom of speech (which I think we still have) and tell these people that it is not on and we aren't going to wear it (and its mostly illegal) AND YOU GET TO LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE NEW ZEALAND FREE OF BULLSHIT, doing a job you love with a reasonable income with no leeches sucking you dry.

Nah I can't be bothered, I'll just move on and wait till I meet some other dick in charge, then I'll move again...........will I f****.

I would rather stay and show them for what they are, they remind me of vampires..........they suck you dry but if you put them in the light of day, they and their system go up in a puff of smoke, because if the public knew they would be as pissed as us.

I just got to sort my shit out and I will put my feet where my mouth is (which I have a natural talent for)

why piss off the public, we all just go for a drive up to the beehive and get lots of coverage to high light our plight, the public's support is what we need.

What a tosser thing to say, our industry is going down the drain and people are doing it so hard that they are thinking of leaving their country of choice, nice sentiment.

I feel for you  a1 mate, its easy for people on the sidelines sat on their arses, watching.