what sticker? i never got a mp sticker? wtf! i want my money back! ......for the last 14 years!!!!

You got to ask your self if only 50% of what I have publically stated is true (and I know its 100% and I can back these claims, even got taped recordings that i am keeping for the special day, got to love modern technology) wouldn't these people have sent the scare tactic of the big noise lawyer's letter by now??

And if what I have said is true, are you happy to be part of a system that acts like this??

It could happen to anyone of you, there is no loyalty, they don't even abide by their own rules and have no problem to then pontificate to all and sundry how ethically superior they are.

There are some who love it the way it is, because they make it that way, for themselves.

Good luck running the gauntlet of not offending these bullies.......

Its shocking mate, I absolutely love this country, proud to say my lads are born and bred kiwis, 90% of kiwis are great, hard working blokes(and bloke-ess's) it is beyond doubt the best country on this planet, by far.

But the shame and dis sapointment of it is the 10% lazy corrupt Dick's seem to be in the positions of power and influence, not all but too many. And they are spoiling for the rest of us.....how many good tradies have we lost to Oz and other countries?....what about CHCH? madness.

One of the Board members came up to me at a meeting and said "have you thought of going back to the UK or going to Oz", which seems to be their objective.....if you don't fit with their plans and agenda..... leave or be f****ed over......I told him I ain't going nowhere, my boys were born here, end of.

Watched a film about Nazi Germany last night.......Hitler had the same attitude.......

Heil Bickler, Heil Bickler......I can see him now at Moronburg working himself up in to a spitting rant....."shut up I am speaking".....cock!

Sent straight after the post.....come on lets have it in the open.Dear Mr Pederson and Master Plumbers’

 

Please see below a post that I have placed on the Plumber’s Forum. As I have asked for a reply within a week publically I thought it only fair to let you know asap. What you have done to my family is disgusting. If you think I am going to let this ride and take it on the chin you are so wrong. I will force this into the public arena one way or another; you do not intimidate me whatsoever. You are corrupt and turn a blind eye to a very biased and dodgy investigation into me, I WILL NOT stand for this.

 

I want my apology from Mr Uren asap, it is ludicrous that Ms Cull has reached a conclusion and asked for my reply to her ruling months ago, it is despicable. I have asked her for what has happened but received no reply to date. I don’t think this is acceptable.

 

 

I know that the people I am talking about read this site, my rant to Max Pederson was on here for just a few hours, and over night at that, but they saw it and tried to persue me for my outburst (an outburst done after 3 years of bias persecution and loosing my business and home, but they apparently didn't see the post I put on here about my disgust that my long suffering wife receiving child sexual abuse case notes, apparently that is fine by them).

So I now offer the Board and Master Plumbers to get their best spin doctors and lawyers to make a public reply on this stream, to my claims ( I know you read this site), all the other members and fee paying licence holders can then judge what you are getting for your $4500.00 just to comply with the Board's system (a system that the CEO and chairman are happy to stand by and watch other people who use it to ruin innocent people's live's, in a bias and corrupt way, all with a 50% Master Plumber's members present on the Board, of the available trade positions on the Board) and also some of you the extra $1250.00 you pay to be a member.

I will take no reply as an admission of all that I have said is irrefutable.

Do these people speak for you all? Lets have it out in public, I'll have my say and you can have yours.....openly and fairly(which would be a first I know)

Then you can watch and see that if no reply is forth coming, then they can't refute any of what I have said....

I ask you if what I have said is true.... are you happy for this state of affairs.....are you happy to run the gauntlet of keeping on the right side of these people.....because if you don't suck up to them, they will have you....I am in no doubt about this.

To the Board and certain Master Plumber's please don't reply to this request by sending any more intimidating letters to my home for my wife to open, just say it loud and proud on here......I would expect if all that I have said is untrue or incorrect in anyway you could reply with in a week.....so I'll expect a reply by next Monday, you should because your credability is in tatters if you don't.

Cheers.

I think the time of hiding behind their protocol and process is well over, they need to front up. I have followed their protocol and got truly shafted, so they can shove that right up their arse. Following their lead, on their pitch, with their ref and their rule book is bullshit and they are bent and incapable of playing fair, I ain't doing it their way any more.

There are four and a half thousand potential viewers on this forum and about seven hundred MP members.

To not respond to being called publically corrupt and accused of acting in this despicable manner is to view everyone else in the industry with contempt and total disregard if you don't explain yourself.....if all I said was untrue I would have been sued for slander......but it ain't slander if it is based in fact.....and if it is true then there needs to be a public enquiry. The arrogance of these people knows no bounds......they look at me as though I am the problem for raising it....nah they are the problem, they should have done the right thing from the start.

As far as my next move Jax and how this effects my family, we are all cool, just spent the summer hols with my lads and had the best "summer holidays" of my life. It do not and I will not allow it to effect them.....but if you think I am going to go through this bullshit and then just crawl under a stone....well you don't know me very well.

Its not about the bullshit charges,hiding evidence, setting me up or the non existant course that I have to do to re-licence this year....IT IS BECAUSE THEY DID THIS TO ME AND MY FAMILY, END OF STORY IT IS/WAS TOTALLY WRONG AND UNFOUNDED FROM DAY ONE. The whole thing was avoidable and should never have happened I will not take it lying down.

And yes I will mention my family, I do not come as a single entity.... what you do to me will ultimately effect my family, and these arsehols should be made aware that their silly little games of power and screwing people over has run on effects.

If you tell lies about me and ruin my ability to provide for my kids, then hell yes I will tell you about it. As for my blood pressure I am all cool and the gang........

I would like to see others if they had been through what I have AND my family and see their reaction, it is wrong and needs addressing.........I have tried all manner of ways, and I going to get more and more public about it until it is looked at fairly and openly, you have my word on this.

They need to front up and answer my accusations....I ain't going nowhere.

I'll get on with my life when I get given my life back, a life that was taken by corruption and backroom deals....I had a good reputation and a viable business.

Just one more thing .....are you saying that the NON maditory part two of the NZ5261 IS manitory?

I showed how the fumes would act, even drew diagrams.....and I was right, which is proven by the British Standard, does it matter when I said it or referenced it? it is a fact that it was safe....it is just bollox. The whole process and policy of the Board protects some real dodgy actions.....so I think it is wrong.

Hi Badger - I understand what you are saying - I wasn't making a judgement on 5261 - that is why I put a question mark after what I said - my understanding of what I have read in the transcript was that the crux of the two particulars they found you guilty on was around process of not claiming to have used the British Standard and that this was why the Court of Appeal wouldn't allow it to be introduced becasue it hadn't been used in the defence of the case the Board bought against you.

I know that there was a technical bulletin from one of the water heating companies that had a measurement on it, but that it was Australian.  These are the two particulars that you are trying to get over turned so that you have a 100% clean record isn't it?  That's what I was asking.

The PGDB won't ever respond publicly to you - it would be great for you if they would - and I'm sure everyone else would like to read it too (I know I would) - but it ain't ever going to happen. 

I have kids too - I know how my stress affects them - you do have people out here that are truly concerned about you and what you are going through.

The example of your case and disciplinary hearing is one that perhaps encapsulated the ineptness of the Board and their investigation processes.  I know that I go on about processes and protocols, but they are important in the way we conduct our business.  The processes used in your case (again from what I have read and understood) were hugely lacking.  I was just wondering where this is all going and how it will end - it appears you will keep on keeping on until they either call you out (I guess legally) or apologise.  And I suppose 1 April licensing year will be a watershed if they refuse your license because of the course (which doesn't exist). 

I guess it is watch this space. 

PS I'm glad you've had a good break with your kids - in the end there is nothing else in life that is more important - the rest is just window dressing.

Just had a very depressing chat with a mate, a mutual friend of ours who has endured a 10 year fight against the Board, been dobbed in by someone very connected, he has had a real bad time of it and along with all that it has cost him both financially and emotionally (which these bullying bastards wouldn't last a week of similar treatment)......his wife has had to have a triple by-pass and flown to hospital, all totally stress related......stress caused by the Board and their cronies, it is nothing short of evil.

All you big men out there hope you are proud of your selves...........back room bullies, scum utter scum.

I would go into details but don't want to reveal his identity.

You total tossers........you know who you are.....karma will have you.........