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Master Plumbers ....value for money?

Yes.... I am glad they have people on the Board who implement, enforce and push CPD
1 (5.9%)
Yes.... I am glad they have people on the Board who implement, enforce and push CPD AND run the biggest CPD provider.
1 (5.9%)
Yes.... I am glad they have people on the Board who implement, enforce and push CPD AND run the biggest CPD provider, and are way over represented on the PGDB. All  done against the best practice recommendations of the NZ Law Commision.
1 (5.9%)
Yes...... I love my sticker, looks nice
2 (11.8%)
HHMMMM not sure..... $1250.00 is worth paying for on top of all the shit they force on us and profit from.
12 (70.6%)

Total Members Voted: 13

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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2013, 03:22:10 PM »
Mr Bickers said he did not know Tony Hammond at a meeting in Wellington, he said words to the effect of ....there are over 10 000 members and I don't know him.

Mr Bickers was on my hearing panel......Tony Hammond was the "impartial" investigator......

have a look at below, My question is yes there are over 10 000 members in IPENZ....but HOW MANY ARE INVOLVED WITH THE BOARD. Also have a look at what Mr Bickers charges for his CPD courses.....

The Standards New Zealand Meritorious Awards were first
introduced in 2001. SNZ committee members make nominations for
the Meritorious Service Awards. IPENZ recognises the voluntary
commitment involved in producing credible and sound Standards.
"Over 1500 New Zealanders contribute their time and effort to
produce these documents, and what's more, they do so without
payment. It is only fitting then, that they receive recognition for their
outstanding efforts", says SNZ CEO Rob Steele.

Tony Hammond MIPENZ. Tony has been a
"great ambassador for the Standards
development process" while working on
Standards for the gas industry. He is a
mechanical engineer and has worked in the gas
industry for more than 30 year

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•   Tue 8:15 AM - 5:00 PM
Christchurch
Presenter: Alan Bickers
$540.00 excl GST
IPENZ Membership Discount Rate$480.00 excl GST
PDP Employee Rate$460.00 excl GST
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•   APR 16
Tue 8:15 AM - 5:00 PM
Auckland
Presenter: Alan Bickers
$540.00 excl GST
IPENZ Membership Discount Rate$480.00 excl GST
PDP Employee Rate$460.00 excl GST
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•   APR 24
Wed 8:15 AM - 5:00 PM
Taupo
Presenter: Alan Bickers
$540.00 excl GST
IPENZ Membership Discount Rate$480.00 excl GST
PDP Employee Rate$460.00 excl GST
Register
•   JUN 18
Tue 8:15 AM - 5:00 PM
Wellington
Presenter: Alan Bickers
$540.00 excl GST
IPENZ Membership Discount Rate$480.00 excl GST
PDP Employee Rate$460.00 excl GST
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Description
Professional engineers perform in the capacity of “an expert” in a variety of situations
•   Resource Consent hearings
•   The Environment Court
•   Arbitrations
•   The District or High Court
This one-day workshop is designed to equip professional engineers with the knowledge and skills to perform the role of “expert witness” in a confident and competent manner, understanding the status, obligations, and legal and ethical requirements of the role.
Learning outcomes
Attendees will be able to demonstrate an understanding of the following
•   The status of the “expert witness”
•   The legal and ethical obligations
•   How best to prepare evidence; and
•   How to deliver evidence and respond to examination
Presenter information
Alan Bickers
Alan Bickers CPEng, IntPE, Dist FIPENZ has over 40 years experience as a professional engineer, senior executive, company director and consultant. Alan provides services as an independent commissioner under the Resource Management Act and in alternative dispute resolution (arbitration, mediation and adjudication) particularly relating to engineering, building, construction and local government.
Alan is a Distinguished Fellow and Past President of IPENZ, and is also a Fellow of the Arbitrators’ and Mediators’ Institute of New Zealand and several other professional bodies.

You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2013, 03:29:28 PM »
SECRETARIAT OF GANZ
Stephen Parker, Executive Director and Secretary
Tony Hammond, Technical services

This is from just one of the many many items I have down loaded with these two people together, and I mean lots.

Tony Hammond "impartial" investigator.....
Stephen Parker.....chair of my kangaroo court.....

HMMMMM is that a conflict of interest .......


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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2013, 03:35:12 PM »
Running a course on "the role of the professional witness".......so I take it Mr Bickers you would know the effects on fairness if a "impartial" investigator with held photos that a forensic investigator took? Or wrote the statements for people who wouldn't sign them??

Or perhaps it is a course on making a living out of being a witness LOL, doing it professionally, like perhaps a golfer going pro.....

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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2013, 03:38:01 PM »
Like I said a public enquirey....this isn't fair.....maybe illegal?????....going to see a lawyer soon, perhaps I can find out.

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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2013, 10:19:00 PM »
The people we talk about who read this site can suck my balls...thats what I think about that. Get the visual picture and enjoy it,thats what its all about.
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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2013, 07:49:49 AM »
discount for members.....hmmmm where I have heard that before......

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Re: WHAT SUPPORT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM MASTER PLUMBERS...NOT MANY...IF ANY
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2013, 01:58:36 PM »
For more proof see attachments, the overseer and chair of my hearing was Stephen Parker.........and the "impartial" investigator was Tony Hammond....

Now the faces are the same, see photos....the both managed the Kennedy Trust together and were on the Secretariat for GANZ together.

Is it OK for this to happen?



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