Hi Badger
Where did you get this from?   

The high risk gasfitting category includes:
• Work where the means of compliance in AS/NZS 5601.1       
or AS/NZS 5601.2 are not followed
So if AS/NZS 5601.1 or .2 ARE followed (99% od domestic gas fitting in NZ), what catogary does it fall in to??

Is it "low" or "general".........do we cert it???

It won't work. 

This was all about the Government saving on administration costs. What was best for trades people and others didn't come into it. We are yet again picking up the cost for the government and who do we hand the costs on to - the consumers.

Now the government can sit back and say "look at the administrative costs we have saved" and there will be no mention of the increase in costs to the trades people and no mention of the increase in costs to the consumer.  Yet again the industry will get accused of being too expensive. $70 for a trades person to do the real job of protecting the consumer and $125 an hour for one government plonker to say they do it.

How about this, once upon a time you needed an inspector and some sort of call out/back up for gas leaks/emergencies for the "sellers" of gas to  be able to sell gas...........now they sell it like McDonald's or Pizza hut, branding and advertising.... with no responsibility past the gas meter/cylinders.......you could get an orangutan to fit the gas and they will happily supply as long as the orangutan prints his /her own cert.....absolving everyone in the chain(except the orangutan) of any come back.

All I am glad of is, that all orangutans are good natured kindly beasts and are scrupulous and would never pretend to know what they are doing just to make a buck..........people, especially ones working under the radar, on the other hand...........I am not too sure of.

To all those orangutans just like me...........you are a sucker........you are taking all the responsibility and none of the real profit......certs should be like an annual warrent of fitness.........balls to the suppliers and appliance sellers, this is our livelyhood and lives we are on about.

Certing a system opens us up to a full on corrupt investigation (if they want to) for a gas installation that is ", oh... I don't know for arguments sake....one that's over 7 years old, never serviced even though it is a commercial installation, the smell of gas being ignored for days, the gas hose responsible being replaced twice before, a dodgy cert for an exploding site (but ignored).......AND YOU ARE STILL HELD RESPONSIBLE.....ASK ME HOW I KNOW.......it could be anyone of us who has ever issued/signed a cert.........anyone at all. Hammond told me he wasn't interested in anything........but my signature....that was all.

On that note, guess who deregulated the gas industry, part wrote the contradictory NZ 5261 AND runs a business investigating us orangutans, the poor dumb creatures who cant understand the legalise gobbledygook bullshit..........Mr Hammond, my mate and dodgy bastard who thinks impartial means "plays golf with", with his mate Stephen Parker(ex deputy chair and chair of my kangaroo court involved in, wait for it....GANZ, NZIGE, LPGA*, Gas Appliance retailers Assoc....(*LPGA, not the golf version but the gas one) and IPENZ with Mr Bickers..........pack of corrupt, self serving, nepotistic bastards..... Perhaps Mr Hammond is setting up his offspring for a career in the gas industry......I wonder.


AND ANY ONE OF YOU ARE OPEN TO THEIR (OR THIER ILK'S)  PERSECUTION WHEN EVER THEY GET A CHANCE, OR EVEN FEEL LIKE.

Or we can pull them out into the open and do away with the threat, now today.....or you can gamble that the gas fire you fitted over ten years ago, signed off, with no photos....is well maintained and looked after.....

because if it ain't ................................ prepare for a new arsehole to be torn.........

Sadly and ironically mate, if it wasn't for the people they have had the worst effect on, my wife and kids, I would have done the same.....but what I can do is never let this go, which I will not.....