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Should registration and craftsman exams be held by the training institutes or the PGDB?

Training institutes
22 (46.8%)
PGDB
14 (29.8%)
Only Craftman exams by the PGDB
2 (4.3%)
Craftsman status should not exist.
9 (19.1%)

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Re: Have a say. The PGDB needs to know!
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2015, 08:25:59 AM »
Imagine this..... the Board investigate an explosion.....and your not in the club.....you can't find any of the original copies..... all you have are these electronic copies.....I have seen hundreds of them without the test results filled in on the electronic copies.......


How do YOU feel about that investigation now......

No worries I got a letter from the Registrar stating that the test results is not a required field....must be true because he was paid over $1,000,000.00 bucks for four years work.....
You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2015, 08:28:25 AM »
Here you are guys in the mans own words.....

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« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2015, 08:32:15 AM »
Now bear in mind guys this wasn't a random question of mine......it was for a site that feckin BLEW UP......and nearly KILLED someone......



Because of a leak......on a hose that was sold after I left......with all copies of the last work done minus a TEST FOR LEAKS.....

$1,000,000.00 buck worth of bullshit right there for you.......guess who chipped in for that large sum of money.......YOU!

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« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2015, 08:41:00 AM »
Here is a doosy.......this is the one that resulted in Max, the million dollar man, putting on the disclaimer on the $600,000.00 fox pro system that organised (past tense) the gas SAFETY cert system....

You will notice that the paper original has no mention of me what so ever......

But the electronic copy has me all over it......


There is a reason for this, this too is a doosy.....

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« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2015, 08:51:55 AM »
the reason I believe that I am on the electronic copy.....is because when I left Allgas, under Darnley's employ, because of fears for safety of the public.

The day I told him where he could shove his job, the same day I got a written warning for.....he went and ordered 4 books of certs in my name.....


Well.......that's 100 certs.....I told him I was in no uncertain terms I was going, I couldn't just leave I had just signed up for a mortgage....handed in my notice two weeks later....

I left because they were trying to make me, in contrary to the giant letter on the appliance box, fit a califont to a spa, and had just told me to use poker face when I asked for a specification for a central heating job.....the one where the TRV controlled rad's stagnant water is coming out of the shower and hot out lets....because they are on the same fecking ring main.


This was by the same dickhead that faced a charge......but it disappeared......for the explosion........the same guy gifted his full GAScraftsman/certifying licence after one chat with Tony Hammond.....The same Tony Hammond who was appointed to investigate me.

The same Tony Hammond who sent past case notes to my home....all of them sexually deviant, one of them involving child sexual abuse....unmarked of their vile content.....read by my wife......

I can't not express how much I will never let this go......or how far I will take it.....

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« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2015, 09:24:09 AM »
Now believe me I got a lot more evidence of the complete pigs ear of a gas SAFETY cert system that these pillocks fecked up, lots and lots, copied off their dodgy little system when I was living in a caravan on an industrial site missing my family (because they told lies about me in my local paper and ruined my business), but this is enough to be going on with....

Add this to the complete cock up of, apparently 8100 mistakes on the licence register.......really? because now they are amended, it appears to show the true decline of our trade......a fair minded lay person could almost believe that they were no mistake, but done to cover this decline.....

We have paid over $1,000,000.00 bucks for services rendered and those services are found to be defective......can we claim OUR money back?

Can you imagine if one of our clients paid us that kind of money to plumb out a house, then the shit/waste was all over their lawns and when they turned their water on and gas came out....they would want a refund and then some.....what's the difference between the services we get paid relatively lower for and these high flyers paid big bucks....don't you get what you pay for?

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« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2015, 09:46:07 AM »
Remember the missing cert, the 345138 for the last work done at the site of the explosion, missing the test results on all known copies.....the one NEVER received by the Board (even though there is a copy on line)


Well here's the investigators recollection....a copy of the online cert and the denial that it was received.....when you see the million dollars man's explanation it will blow you away.....

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« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2015, 09:48:20 AM »
Just in case you can't open the Board's explanation here it is below.....


From: Melanie Phillips [mailto:melanie@pgdb.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 4:13 p.m.
To: Paul & Emma Gee
Cc: Wal Gordon
Subject: RE: Paul Gee 
Hi Paul
Please see attached Belinda’s file note of her request to John Darnley for a copy of certificate 345138.  This occurred after she was contacted by lawyers acting for the owner on 17 April 2009 requesting copies of all gas certificates relating to 136 Milton Street.   
Also attached is a copy of the certificate received which, as you will see, is of quite poor quality.
Please let me know if you need any more information. 
Regards
Mel
 
From: Melanie Phillips[mailto:melanie@pgdb.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2011 3:22p.m.
To: Paul & Emma Gee; WalGordon
Subject: RE: Paul Gee
Hi Paul
I have just gone back through the file and can confirm that the Board never received a pink copy of certificate345138.  The only copy the Board has is a photocopy of the certifier’s copy, which you produced as exhibit PG007 together with a copy of the gas suppliers copy.
I see notes from Belinda Greer on the file that the Board copy of certificate 345138 was received after the explosion in 2009, I think from the Department of Labour.
I’m sorry I can’t help you further.
Regards
Mel

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« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2015, 09:59:11 AM »
Here's the million dollar man's explanation.....now this 345138, was for the last work at an explosion, I may have mentioned this before...


Apparently the only evidence that they have that the Board received the cert is , get this.....


Someone entered it in their system......FFS.....how much evidence do you need??

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« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2015, 10:15:24 AM »
There is mention of cert 299760 not being received in the same letter from the million dollar man, Max Pederson....

Really, cos there is the electronic copy attached and the paper copy.....

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« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2015, 10:18:56 AM »
And here's the paper copy of the gas suppliers copy.....



What has the Board done about issuing the carbon copies out but not registering the original at the Board.....sweet feck all.....as far as I know

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« Reply #71 on: July 04, 2015, 10:23:37 AM »
You'll notice that I am not mentioned on the paper copy, but yet again I am on the electronic copy......is this a reliable system to bet your business on?


I left Allgas, early dec......but on the 19th I was according to the Boards electronic system installing appliances for them.....



I suggest all of the gasfitter who have entered their details in to this totally unreliable system ask under an OIA request, ALL the certs that the Board have on them....it could cost you everything.....like it did me........

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« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2015, 10:37:05 AM »
So I think we can safely say that the Board has totally f****ed up the "fox-pro" gas SAFETY cert system.....


Add that to the latest license numbers debacle.....8100 mistakes ......really? FFS is is embarrassing to even look at, let alone back these goons up and say they are capable and competent, done with integrity.....they may want to borrow a dictionary...

And add that to the total premeditated witch-hunt that they forced on my family.......


How does that CPD taste now?

How does it feel to buy back your hard earned trade an qualifications every year to fund the million dollar man?

Buying back your qualifications when they handed it to John Darnley (a sales man, no apprenticeship) after a chat......and when a explosion nearly kills someone (what do you expect when you hand out craftsman status flippantly).....Darnley faces a charge but it disappears....lo and behold... just after the same guy who gifted Darnley his full ticket, Tony Hammond....gets appointed as the investigator. Appointed in the face of my complaints about conflicts of interest....that's fair.....the Ombudsman don't seem to care either

In the Million dollar mans own words, this is the charge for the exploding chippy, see attached .....gone in a puff of smoke, before trial....perhaps it went up with the poor chip shop guys lifestyle ,along with his chipshop......


Of Note it is Tony Hammond who lobbied heavily for deregulation and the self cert system....

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« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2015, 10:45:06 AM »
Please see below.....I can't go, with in NZ, much higher.....we need numbers and we need to be heard....please write to Mr Key and ask him what is to be done, all your MPs for that matter....if this don't get fixed it could be you next.....I can't stress this enough.....

Dear Mr Gee

I am writing on behalf of the Prime Minister and Minister of Tourism, Rt Hon John Key, to acknowledge your email of 11 June 2015 concerning the issues you are having to get the person responsible for the gas explosion at the Milton Street Chip shop held accountable.

Thank you for taking the time to write to the Prime Minister and share your views.

Yours sincerely





I am looking at Amnesty International next.....

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« Reply #74 on: July 04, 2015, 01:52:35 PM »
Been trying to get this looked at since I left Allgas.....seven years before the explosion, got heaps of this correspondence too.....


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