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Offline robbo

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Latest Info Brief from the Board
« on: July 22, 2015, 09:05:21 AM »
hi guys have a read,cheers

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/pgdb-new-zealand-plumbing-gasfitting-and-drainlaying-board/30/latest-info-brief-from-the-board/1892/

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Re: Latest Info Brief from the Board
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 05:11:53 PM »
Apparently its about fairness.....you have all seen the evidence on here how I was shafted and set up.....


Not only was I denied a fair trial, but I can't even complain about people altering my certs with out my permission, nor complain about dangerous work......so I don't have much confidence in their idea of fairness.

Apparently fairness is optional....which is sort of unfair?


As I see it brushing things like this under the carpet causes a trip hazard for the future.....and if you help to cover up corruption, then you are party to that corruption and part of the problem.
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Re: Latest Info Brief from the Board
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 07:07:36 AM »
If you ignore the past.....your condemned to repeat it.....


read the latest "info brief" and apply that thinking to the complaints that are being ignored below.....I am not asking to re open my case but to address these complaints below.....


I am laying a formal complaint against Mr Darnley’s involvement re- the explosion at the Milton Street Chipshop. I believe he might be responsible for this explosion and I am complaining about this so you can appoint an investigator to find out; please appoint an investigator that Darnley isn’t friends with or is a member of any groups that Darnley was/is a member of.
 

I would complain that Darnley didn’t register the pink master copy of cert 345138, while handing out the carbon copies to the customer and gas supplier.
 

I would also complain that all available copies lack a recording of a gas leak test, at a site that later exploded…..because of a gas leak, a gas leak on a hose supplied by Darnley’s company Allgas, weeks after I left Allgas. Please see attached receipt for this hose. Please note I left the year before in 2003.
 

I have reason to believe that it was Darnley who installed the fryers; please see the handwriting samples supplied to you just recently also attached.
 

I would also complain that after altering my initial install and changing the gas cylinder supply set up and changing the hose ( the hose mentioned above, the one that caused the explosion) that a further certificate wasn’t issued.
 

I hope you do not take your previous stand that my having faced charges for this debacle protects Darnley in someway from my complaint, you have said that you can’t revisit my case; please open a new case, one that is fair and transparent.
 

I would also take this chance, to yet, again lay a complaint about the legionnaire’s risk, installed by Mr Darnley. Please see attachment, this dwelling has central heating with radiators, an impossibility with out contaminating the hot water supply when heated with the califont on the cert. You have this blatant evidence, please act on it. It is very dangerous plumbing and this is your jurisdiction, no one else’s. Please note it is that time of year where the thermostatic heads on the radiators are opening and the 11 year old water is being atomised by the elderly mans shower (any plumber worth his salt would know this to be a ticking time bomb, a matter of when not if there will be an issue, it has the potential to kill.)
 

And I would also complain about the manipulation of the gas certificates at Powick Street, by my reckoning it is missing at least 2 certificates for work carried out, and as far as I know it still has the lpg cylinders on the deck, this was of such concern that the Board laid charges against myself. As I have proved that it was impossible for me to have done this, I would complain about the person who did. According to your correspondence you have made no other contact to the owner of Powick Street, other than the letter that said I was capable of acting illegally in Northland which was sent out before my hearing, my hearing showed this manipulation and the Board have done nothing. Just for the record I have never been to Northland.
 

Again, I hope you do not take the stand that my having faced charges for this protects the person responsible in someway and you can’t revisit my case, I am not asking you to revisit my case, please open a new case, one that is fair and transparent.
 

Also I would complain that even though someone nearly died because of bad, very bad gasfitting and shoddy practices, that no one has been held responsible for nearly killing Ron Clark.
 

I am appalled that even though Darnley didn’t sit an apprenticeship the Board saw fit to gift him (and others) his/their full craftsman/certifying status, I would complain about this flippant issuing of a licence that resulted in empowering a person not fit to practice, that at least once has ended in an explosion.
 

Also Kern Uren stated at my hearing that Mr Darnley had an extensive file, please by way of an OIA request can I get a copy of this extensive file and the basis for gifting Darnley his licence, please blank out all names as I do not want to invade anyone’s privacy. I am willing to cover the photocopying cost.
 

And my last complaint is that the Board have covered up a badly administered gas safety certificate and licence system that resulted in a near fatal explosion, I complain about this dereliction of duty.
 

I believe all the above are reasonable grounds for laying these complaints.

 

 
The Board want to look to the future.......why so they can do it all again?

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Re: Latest Info Brief from the Board
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 02:52:23 PM »
You will probably need to take a private prosecution like John Banks did. The Board is unlikely to revisit  this disaster as it WILL make them look like a bunch of fools with an agender.  Perhaps a "Give a little" page?    The latest info brief included a warning about working illegally if you haven't paid your license fees.  Even when notified, the Board takes no action.

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Re: Latest Info Brief from the Board
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 06:14:23 PM »
I would love to take this further, the only thing holding me back is cost.

Anyone know of a pro bono lawyer or even if someone wanted to back me as an investment, with a % paid back. More than anything I just want to clear my name.

So apparently your only entitled to a "fair go" if your poor enough for legal aid, or if your rich enough to fund a legal team, ironic really because my fees have been going towards funding the Boards legal team for many years.

I am totally open to ideas.

I would have more official legal help if I was up for murder.




I must add that I have had an immense effort and help from the Federation and especially Wal, but the way it is I can go no further unless I have a lawyer.

None of the MPs nor media seem to want to know.




Here is what the Prime minister had to say....


Dear Mr Gee

I am writing on behalf of the Prime Minister and Minister of Tourism, Rt Hon John Key, to acknowledge your email of 2 July 2015 concerning your issues with your complaint E80343.  The Prime Minister will not be getting involved as he relies on his Ministers and or other experts to resolve such issues

Thank you for taking the time to write to the Prime Minister and share your views.

Yours sincerely



So what do we do when the ministers do nothing?

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Re: Latest Info Brief from the Board
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 07:35:25 PM »
It would appear that no one gives a rats arse about '' the health and safety of the public '' as you have reported Badger. You don't think that the monkeys in Wgtn care about the public do you?
 As long as all boxes are ticked, and there is no come back it is C.A.R.E. Cover Arse & Retain Employment.  typical public service rise to the highest level of your incompetence and then get shuffled sideways until retirement.

Perhaps Mr Martin sawyer with his legal back ground may have a sense of justice and  doing the right thing, but i doubt it given his current employment.
Why are there not any real on the tools  plumbers represented on the board? Why do we support this corporate bullshit at all???

Actions speak louder than words, the proof is in the pudding, empty tins make the most noise, you cant polish a turd.

I need a drink!
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