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Offline Badger

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I'll tell what the response is from Dr Max MD........


Max,

 

Under an Official Information Act request.

 

Please can you tell me as owner of the “fit and proper” policy and the decision maker of licensing….what are your qualifications to judge an applicants health, do you have any medical qualifications?
 

What health issues would render an applicant unfit based solely on health? What are the parameters that you would base an opinion on?

 

You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

Offline robbo

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hi guys, what do you think Maurice thinks about it? did he o.k. it? cheers

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So Mr Jackson if......in the info brief


This requirement affects people applying to be registered in the licensed class and will not affect tradespeople renewing their existing licences or applying to be registered in the certifying class.

Why is this hidden in the policy.........

4 Guiding principles
4.1 An applicant must satisfy the Board they are a fit and proper person to be entitled to:
a be registered under section 36 of the Act
b be issued with a practising licence under section 44 of the Act

c a renewal of their practising licence under section 51 of the Act.

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Hi Guys

ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS
7 Owner
7.1 The owner of this policy is the Registrar. Please refer any suggested amendments or errors to the owner.

Don't you think this is a bit "short" sighted of the registrar LOL
Unless the moral improves the floggings will continue

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Now this is just wrong  :o


Examinations policy
Updates to the examinations policy affect people who want to apply to sit examinations after 1 September 2014. Currently examination candidates for examinations 9192 licensed plumber, 9193 licensed gasfitter and 9197 licensed drainlayer must be enrolled to complete or have already completed their national certificate for the trade they applying to sit their registration examination in. From 1 September 2014 a person will be required to have completed their national certificate in order to be eligible to sit these examinations.

This is just another block in the way of apprentices.

How many of you guys sat and passed your exams before you finished your national certificate?

This is just designed to keep us oppressed as long as possible as labourers

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hahaha short sighted....he should go gnome and review it, will this help the elf and safety of the public?

Offline Badger

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Just when you think we have run out of things to take the piss, they do something like this......got to be fair they are givers.....

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FYI........section 50 and 51 of the Act.......
(a) renew the licence for the period (not exceeding 5 years)


The Board has the power to grant licenses for 5 years.....and at the costs imposed on us, they bloody should....or perhaps they want another trip to Melbourne, with their partners, this Christmas......while I work hard to try and give my kids a few presents........tossers.


50 Applications for renewal of practising licence
(1) An application for the renewal of a practising licence under
this subpart—
(a) must not be made earlier than 3 months before the licence’s
date of expiry; and
(b) must be sent or delivered to either—
(i) the Registrar; or
(ii) the Electrical Workers Registration Board if the
application is to be considered by that Board
under section 61; and
(c) must be in the form required by the Board; and
(d) must contain, or be accompanied by, the information
and documentation required by the Board; and
(e) must be accompanied by the prescribed fee (if any).
(2) The Registrar must refer any application received by the
Registrar under this section to the Board for consideration
under section 51.
(3) If an application for the renewal of a practising licence is made
before the licence’s date of expiry but the licence has not been
renewed before that date, the licence continues in force until
the application is determined.
51 Renewal of practising licence
(1) A registered person is entitled to a renewal of his or her practising
licence if the Board is satisfied that—
(a) the person has complied with the application requirements
in section 50; and
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Reprinted as at
5 December 2012
Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers
Act 2006 Part 2 s 51
(b) the person complies with the current applicable minimum
standards for registration; and
(c) there is no reason to believe that the person has breached
any term or condition of the licence during the period
before the licence is renewed; and
(d) the person is a fit and proper person to hold a practising
licence; and
(e) the person has satisfied the requirements of a competence
programme that the person is required to complete
under subsection (5).
(2) If the Board is satisfied that the registered person is entitled
to a renewal of his or her practising licence, the Board must
direct the Registrar to—
(a) renew the licence for the period (not exceeding 5 years)
that the Board thinks fit; and
(b) send to the person notification of the Board’s decision;
and
(c) enter details of the renewal in the register.
(3) If the Board is not satisfied that the registered person is entitled
to a renewal of his or her practising licence, the Board must
notify the person of—
(a) the Board’s decision; and
(b) the person’s right of appeal to a District Court against
the decision.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1)(c), the Board may, if it
thinks fit, disregard a breach of a term or condition of the practising
licence.
(5) The Board may require a registered person to complete a competence
programme before it renews that person’s practising
licence (regardless of whether or not the Board is satisfied of
the matters referred to in subsection (1)(a) to (d)) if the person
is required to complete a competence programme when applying
for a renewal of the licence in accordance with a condition
or requirement imposed by a notice published under section
30.
(6) Despite subsection (1), if any fee or other money payable to
the Board under this Act by the registered person has not been
paid, the Board may refuse to renew that person’s practising
licence until that fee or other money is paid.
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Right, next year I am going to go for a five year license....and cut some of the costs by a fifth......some of the costs

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when is the spaceship landing to take the misfits back to their liar.
this is extraordinary.
you couldn't make this shit up to write a best seller, but i may just try as I'm just bout through with these clowns.
i met a guy recently who decided not to renew license, he had other income stream.
 If what he said is correct and i have no reason to doubt he was contacted by the board as to why he was not re licensing. He said he was toldwhen asked if he was ever likely to re license  not to leave it to long to relines in the future or  the board may well feel compelled to audit his work from previous years..

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So now to do plumbing, crawl through shit under houses and clear blocked drains of crap..... we are going to do an annual audit (if they get what they want), CPD which is illegal, pass a medical check, a police check......what are we joining the CIA?

All on Max's say so and opinion......if you don't provide the info to their intrusive questions.....no license......making you a criminal just for working......we are people who want to contribute and work, building this country.......not dole bludgers for Christ sake......

I used to be a commercial diver and my annual medical was $400, my mate just told me a pilots medical costs nearer $700 now a days....or is Dr Max MD going to do the health checks.....WTF. We don't earn enough to cover this bullshit.

When did this great career become so bloody complex.....these clowns got to go.....

Fit and Proper......they don't even know the meaning of the words.

Craftsman, wanna join up and write a book, all the people shafted by the Board could write a chapter....man I could do a fecking trilogy......Title...The Board, a story of the wild west.....cowboys and idiots........

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hi guys,
... Fit and Proper......they don't even know the meaning of the words... Fit-us-up good and Proper.  I think that is the aim, cheers

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Been there mate, got the tee shirt.....I was fitted up right and proper....Think about how they abused their power stitching me up.....what do you think they are going to do with this crap.....

Can someone ask Maurice if he is happy about it all......he won't talk to me any more.

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 >:(  Surely it would be better to do these checks when applying for an apprenticeship (current guys excluded)  Imagine forking out all that money and working as a slave THEN you get told you are not good enough.

I would like to state for the record that obviously it would be much better NOT to have these checks. It's totally unnecessary.  Is there any indication from the Board of how much they expect the applicant for the privilege of being judged? How much will that add to the already unrealistic fees?


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hi guys,
... O.k. if we are to have this rule lets start at the top. The person making this judgement of `Fit and Proper` must be` Fit and Proper` themself. So who will this person be? A present board member, No, they have not been deemed to be `Fit and proper` persons, so Professional people like:-Politicians?Lawyers?Accountants?Doctors?Judges ?Financial Advisers?Real Estate Agents, we need to find someone who does not have a `Skeleton in the Cupboard` who is squeaky clean, ah but wait there is a person coming soon who may fit the bill, the Dalai Lama I think we can rely on his judgement , we can trust him, or we may have to wait until the resurrection, cheers   


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