Please see an email sent to the Board and MP'S, I warn each and every one of you to read the email first, the attachments are sick, but done with the full knowledge of the Board, it investigatior and his lawyer( who put it all together)

Hi Iain,

 

Please can you explain the relevance of child sexual abuse to make an argument in a court of law or at a tribunal…..and at what point do you show common decency and moral fibre. I am sure you could find other historic cases in NZ to make a point without using the suffering of innocents, unless you have no common decency.

 

The Board’s lawyer has seen it fit to use these sick and depraved actions of people whom I believe waste air by breathing it, just and solely to make his point for his argument.

 

I apologise to all copied in and warn you that if sexual acts against minors offensive please do not open the attachments, but consider this I came home to my wife absolutely distraught and to be blunt hysterical and sobbing, we had lost our business, home and I was due to go up in front of the people responsible for writing and referencing this base and sick material.

 

This was referenced not once but twice. Twice on two very separate occasions once at the impartiality hearing and once at the actual hearing.

 

My wife is totally innocent of any wrong doing by a long shot, I want to lay a formal complaint and ask the Board for its reasoning and justification for the use of such sickness.

 

Would you Iain stoop to such lows to persecute someone??

 

I whole heartedly apologise to each and every one of you copied in, but this is what Mr Laurenson and Mr Hammond has seen fit to email to my wife with no warning, she still cries when she thinks of it or talks about it………..I ask each and every one of you…….. IT THIS ACCEPTABLE??

 

Both are copied straight out of the Board’s “impartial” investigators papers to push his argument and totally known to the Board (or should be), it is nothing short of perverted. The attachments speak for them selves. Please see the Plumber’s forum also.

 

I demand a full unreserved written apology to my wife. I assure you I will pursue this after my appeal. The ironic thing is I received a warning from Kern Uren for using crass language in a text with in days, let’s see how long it takes to apologise to my wife.

 

Yours Sincerely Paul Gee

 



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sick sick sick

please put in a official information act request to see the context of these comments, quote me that I have no problem with the release and that I give full permission for its release, ask for Mr Laurenson's arguments and past presidents for historic legal decisions, once at my "impartiallity" hearing and once for my "actual" hearing .......each one has an under age girl being abused by a family member..........perhaps a past president for some one ??

Would any "mere" plumbers stoop so low???

you have my sympathies Paul - its disgusting what has happened to you and your wife, this board and the system that we are forced to operate under is despicable, a disgrace and an utter sham

did you cc in the minister and media? I would - its disgusting, the public has a right to know what is ACTUALLY happening in our industry...

keep strong mate - thoughts are with ya

This is what the prosecution used as past president case studies on two separate occasions to push their argument.... once on probabilities for my hearing and the other for the impartiality hearing, and my wife read one of them as it was unmarked as perverted filth, it really upset her.

What relevance this filth has in a work tribunal god only knows, but all the Board members and Secretariat allowed them to use it to bolster the investigators argument, even if they weren't aware of it before it was presented they allowed it to be submitted and have continued to do so since, my wife read it months ago. That is unless they didn't read it at all which is pretty messed up too, allowing a case to continue with out considering all the info, I asked for an apology at the hearing so they did know.

If some one put this under my nose to push a point I would tell them to go away and get some decorum, decency and morals.....but the Board allowed it.

Both hearings this shit was used and each time there was about 3 to 4 case studies..... so both times their argument consisted of 25% to 30% of child sexual abuse...........and the M.O. IS THE SAME FOR BOTH, perhaps we should get the police to impound their lap tops and check out the content.

You tell me TS where this all fits in and we'll both know. If anyone spoke to my wife like that in front of me I would paint the floor with them, that still might be on the cards.

And Allan Bickers, Sue Inneson Board members and the CEO Max Pederson, please I know you read this site lets have your explanation all of you.

Cracks me up you call Fiona Gravel names on here and you get a lawyer straight on to it, Wheres my lawyer I'm a Master Plumber, past president at that and I have nothing but threats from them, gutless.

Please call me on this, bullies tend to wind me right up.

How would any of you feel to see your wife crying because you got to sell your home, loose your business then read this sort of shit, it is sick.

Its just sick and has no place at a plumbers hearing, if it does then I stand corrected and welcome an explanation from them responsible...........yes you the spineless ones reading this but not having the guts to post a reply, no morals or spine and you lead us? step down and let someone with some mettle have a go.

Like I said a few months ago, vampires the lot of them......blood suckers that in the full light of day go up in a puff of dust. Lets have it out in public. Sun light is the best disinfectant......a public inquiry please.

hi guys/Badger, i still do not understand what has happened here the posts and replys are fragmented, if all this type of talk came out in a hearing against me i would walked out/got a shotgun/do something so what did you do?  Wal was there what did he think of it the whole scene seems crazy!!! can you explain what exactly went on, cheers