number four gone from my area in the last 12 months.....the lastest trades man to leave the plumbing industry in my area had a major stroke and will not ever be able to practice again....he was 45...thats another one gone.
thats 1 to oz
2 to retirement
 1 to a nasty illness.
oh and i am not counting the guys that have just decided to fly under the radar!!! ....mite just go that way my self, reading the forum it looks like a cheaper option if i ever got caught!!!!  >:(GRRRR!

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/plumbing/1/the-lastest-trades-man-to-leave-the-plumbing-industry/1351/

Straight from the horses mouth (or some other orifice).....they are basically saying....get them young and desensitise them to putting their hands in their pockets for something that for over a hundred years you were able to do.....you did your time and you were qualified, end of......

Bunch of cocks!

How long are we going to let these pillocks dictate to us what we are and what we do......

It started with the smallest minority of the trades, gasfitters....then the plumbers, now the builders.....and it looks like the sparkies are going the same way if the latest newsletter is anything to go by.

Think about how much things have deteriorated over the last ten years, people leaving the industry hand over fist and/or not renewing some of their licences. Honest reasonable hard working people considering working illegally under the radar.

The fiasco with training and apprentices, compliance costs, CPD, being told we are all incompetent and need to retrain EVERY year, in bullshit courses.

People sending flyers out and advertising for pricing YOUR time for points for "upskilling", get it before the dead line....learn that shit still rolls down hill......... no mention of "this is new, you should know this".....

And the more people who leave the industry.......leaves these nice people with all the work growing drunk on the power they wield over us.......AND GETTING WORSE!!!

Apparently thinking they can ignore the  NZ Law Commission, Ombudsman and Auditor General and general common decency......just to feather their own nest, it is just plain wrong.

It appears that the only thing they have foremost in their sights is their own agenda.......since Routhan it has all gone tits up and declined, all under the guise of doing it for the greater good......that is bollox.

Question.....how has any one thing improved in the industry over the last 10 years? Really I would love to know. Except certain people's profit margins.

In what type of decent society can an industry organisation, with full backing from the building minister.........How can this one organisation be way over presented on an industry Board...an industry board that forces CPD on already qualified people(and apparently CPD is illegal at that). An industry organisation present on an Industry Board against the NZ Law Commission's best recommendations against impartiality of all things, it says an industry board should be free of interest/industry groups(that's free of ...not you can have one or two, we have 50% of the tradesman positions filled by MP)....then go and set up the Nation's biggest CPD provider? and then have the audacity to only give their own members 50% discount.....but making the non members pay full price.......any of this seem fair to anyone?

But as one of the main leaders of this organisation said at a meeting in Napier......"why would I want to change anything I am happy with things as they are"........I bet you f****in are mate!

And their own rules state that you are not to critisise another members work....but they lead investigations and audit their own member's work? perhaps they could run a CPD on morals and ethics........

hi guys, its all about power and money
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•   “The Master said, “If your conduct is determined solely by considerations of profit you will arouse great resentment.”
― Confucius
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   And i think that they have,cheers

Here's a few for you on ethics.....

There is a past National President, and now association Secretary of Nelson, who when the Board had to stop using Casey's for the bi annual audits (because apparently they were failing people to pocket the re-audit fee and were relieved of their duties) has no problem carring out the audits because and I quote, its OK, because it is done under a confidentiality clause and he doesn't know who he is auditing.................I still got the emails about this.

But in my mind this says to me that he is prepared to audit anyone, blindly......so how does that stand with the MP rules of not criticising another members work?

Do he turn a blind eye if its a member? but he can't because he don't know who the installer is.....and it would be wrong to turn a blind eye anyway!

Apparently they had to stop using these people as auditors because they were targeting their competition, because the Board in all their wisdom were employing (don't forget they were getting paid to audit their own members) people in their own area's, LOL these people are great......are you happy to be part of this shit and finance it to boot....

I was voted in democratically by my peers to be a gas rep at the gas meetings......they sent someone else, same bloke had an explosion at a car oven( an oven used to bake paint off at a panel beaters).......I wonder what he got for that? was he f****ed over like I was....apparently not.

AND I GOT HEAPS MORE.......LETS HAVE IT OUT IN THE OPEN, PUBLIC WOULD BE APPALLED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY REALISE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE REPSPONCIBLE FOR THE EXPENSIVE PLUMBER'S BILLS THEY GET, f****IN DISGUSTING, TOTALY IMMORAL AND DODGY........