What a bunch of dufuses the MP assoiation is....How the hell would they know what others are thinking they dont represent traniee plumbers or licenced plumbers which is a large part of the sector and they only represent a certin amount of certifying plumbers of which many more dont belong to the MP's...So how the hell would they know what the majority of us are thinking or feeling....AND those two complaints were the repersentation of a vast many traniee/licenced/and certifying plumbers out there who didnt know how to go about taking action to change this crap system we have now!...If most practionisers as the MP's say have a diffrent view then why the heck does the federation have some 700 odd members?...Who for the better part agree with the views and stance that the federation has taken.
Up skilling is a crok...i was just on the phone today to a grundfos tech troubleshooting a problem with there pump...I AM CONSTANTLY UPSKILLING its part of my job!...I dont need some fool trying to teach me how to work safe in the sun!...hehehe
At tech it was drilled into us that half the job is about being able to refrence stuff like how to know what part of the codes to refrence when we hit a certin problem etc etc...there is no one out there i know that can recite the codes word for word!...
The realerty is that cpd or up skilling is not needed BECAUSE over a whole life time of plumbing you still wont be able to know everything in and with the plumbing world, but because of the very nature of the job you are forced to learn as you need anyway!...Being able to refrence stuff when you need it is a most important skill...
Anyways Keep up the good work PGDB Federation...all these people are showing by trying to put you down is there fear!...If they had nothing to fear they would say nothing but because you the federation have stood tall for the common apprentise and common licenced plumber and certifying plumbers alike these people DO have something to fear...Look out MP,s and PGDB theres a new kid on the block and it looks like hes here to stay!

And to add to this upskilling rubbish...Dux just had a barbecue breackfast at our local suppliers today introducing there new range of dux traps...I had a lengthy decussion with the rep about there product and he openley admited that there first run out of Dux traps had a fault in the design and that they had rectified the problem which was a basic problem by the sounds of it and i gave him my view on how to improve the product(i had to cus thats how i am always seeking to better things...hehehe)...and at the end of it i got a free dux trap to study and also to help me UPSKILL!!! No points needed no money exchanged just a williness to want to be able to deliver the best product and service TO THE PUBLIC that i am able to provide...So in two days i have gained as much knowledge(I dont rearly give a stuff about points!!!) as i would been forced to pay for it by some fool hidden behind a desk out of touch with what is rearly happening out there...EVERY single situation in plumbing has diffrent obsticles to overcome and no course could ever skill me on all the varied diffrent situations we have to work in...
My deffinition of a competnent person is NOT someone who susposedly knows everything...but of someone who is able to come across a situation and know the right course of action to rectify the situation...THAT to me is a competent person....Look at it this way EVEN a COMPETENT Airline pilot does not know all the systems of his aircraft off his head...He is competent BECAUSE he knows what part of his flight manual to look at in case of emergency...and then to follow the instructions word for word!...In the boards current eyes he would be deemed incompentent because he had to refer to a manual to do his job!.
Anyway have a good weekend all...im all ranted and raved out

Somebody should stuff the journal up there arses

Hi jax and co
The journal is a great publication and the editor is very at her job even though her hands are tied by gravel and co
You have to remember that it is the sounding board of the pretend master plumbers and not the real master plumber of Nz 
What we need is a publication for plumbers like us who can say what is really going on in this country jd

What we need is a publication for plumbers like us who can say what is really going on in this country jd

so whens the fed gonna release a newsletter and/or mag?? or does it already happen?

hi guys/badger, what is the "i think says it all" what does the says all it mean, i`m not sure what you are getting at,cheers

Hey jaxcat/robbo - cheers for the heads up - will check it out!