I wonder if this will benefit HJ Coopers or disadvantage Rinnai and Visa versa.. Overall will this drive the pricing up?

Rinnai Announces Acquisition with HJ Cooper

The Managing Director of Rinnai New Zealand, Ray Ferner, today announced Rinnai’s purchase of HJ Cooper Ltd, a New Zealand manufacturer and distributor of electric hot water systems and solar technology.

Ray says HJ Cooper Ltd has carved out an enviable position in the electric hot water cylinder market with a great range of innovative electric hot water solutions.

“The HJ Cooper brand is recognised by merchants and plumbers alike, and by combining with Rinnai’s own expertise in gas continuous flow hot water systems, Rinnai will be able to offer solutions for all hot water needs,” says Ray.

Ivan Ramsey, the current Managing Director of HJ Cooper Ltd has taken a position on the Rinnai executive team and will be responsible for the integration of the hot water businesses and the continued development of hot water solutions in the New Zealand market

Rinnai’s National Sales Manager Gavin Brown will take on overall responsibility for sales and distribution relationships for the wider hot water product range under the acquisition.

“We see the new partnership with HJ Cooper as an excellent opportunity to combine the complimentary products of both companies and deliver new and compelling products to the market. We are sure that this is the best way forward to benefit both the installers and consumers,” says Ray.

The combined operations will improve field coverage for both sales teams and the electric hot water cylinder manufacturing will be consolidated into the new Rinnai factory at Airport Oaks Auckland.



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the price on the cylinders will most certinaly rise....looking at rinnai's prices they aint exactly cheap...i hope they dont rise but think they will.\

It must be to be able to meet Rheems head on in the market.  Rinnai products will always sell well - they simply have very little competition in the marketplace, and as a rule they do perform very well if they are maintained properly.  Their market share in the gas continuous flow market must be very high - so much that they risk losing the "brand' Infinity.  We get plenty of calls to fix Infinities, but when you get there they are Bosch, Rheem, Paloma's etc - customers simply call them all Infinities.   

I'd be willing to bet HJ Cooper cylinders will increase in price as Rinnai overlay their overheads on it.  Will be an interesting mix... guess we wait and see what happens.

hi guys/TS, what patrs are they,cheers

TS could you please clarfiy what parts of there cylinders dont comply please as i am installing 34 of there 50lt cylinders in a boarding house atm and am conserned i am using the wrong product....
cheers thunderhead

thats what i was commenting to my employeer about the other day that the placement of the TPRV looks very low for the cylinder...but would still like to hear from TS i know hes active yet he refuses to state what he has found wrong with these cylinders and i would love to know so i can pass it on to my boss.

Sorry, forgot to recheck this topic. Yes its the TPR location. G12/AS1 and NZS 4606, or 4607, can't remember which one, requires the TPR to be in the top 20% andno more than 150mm down from the top of the vessel. I haven't seen many of them in my area but other inspectors have raised it around the country.

Not meant to be a criticism robbo but your experience doesn't go far enough if thats the case. I've seen plenty and in my role as an inspector I see issues more regularly now especially with solar and solid fuels systems. The rules have been in place for over 20 years now and been through numerous changes without this aspect being changed. To get rid of the requirement you'd need to prove whyt it isn't an issue.

If it is too far down the vessel then is capable of holding water in excess of 99 degrees in the top portion which doesn't set off the TPR valve lower down, remember statification from your training? The CWEV operates by pressure not temp so you can get excessive temperature without excessive pressure if things go wrong meaning the CWEV won't operate before the TPR.

When you go to investigate a HWC discharging steam into a room you'll know what I mean. I've seen a number of over temperature issues and a couple of ruptures and the results of one HWC explosion. Believe me its not an area we want to lower standards.