http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/5271430/Gasfitter-cleared-of-blame-over-blast

HAVE A READ OF THIS LINK THEN READ THE BOARD'S PRESS RELEASE, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE AT THE SAME HEARING

HUGE UPS TO WAL AND THE FEDERATION, TOTALLY DOWN TO WAL THE MAN HAS INTEGRITY AND IS SWITCHED ON, I WAS JUST THE EYE CANDY AT THE HEARING.

WE HAVE THIS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGE, IT IS NOW AND IT NEEDS NUMBERS, YOU CAN JOIN THE FEDERATION TODAY AND FIGHT WITHIN THE SAFETY OF NUMBERS AND BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY OR YOU CAN POTENTIALLY FACE IT TOMORROW ALONE AND NOT KNOW WHERE TO TURN AND BE SWAMPED IN BURAURCRACY, believe me i know.

THEY HAVE YET AGAIN MISREPRESENTED ME AND ARE HOLDING ON TO THEIR ONE CHARGE (BECAUSE IF THAT FALLS OVER THE SECOND CHARGE DISSAPPEARS)THIS IS OUT OF FORTY BLOODY FOUR CHARGES, AND THIS CHARGE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT THE BOARD'S OWN INVESTIGATOR SAID I HAD COMPLIED WITH THE COMPULSORY PART ONE OF THE REGS AND THE CUSTOMER HAS EMAILED ME TODAY TO SAY IT IS UNBELIEVEABLE!!!! THEY PERSECUTE US WITH OUR OWN MONEY AND DRAW A WAGE AND HAVE LAWYERS AT THEIR DISPOSAL, this is not fair and  THIS IS NOT OVER.


I HAVE BEEN ON THE DEFENCIVE FOR 2 AND A HALF YEARS NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE OFFENCIVE AND BELIEVE ME I CAN BE OFFENCIVE, LOL               

Linkback: https://www.plumbers.nz/rant-or-rave/5/the-real-results-of-the-hearing-of-paul-gee/734/

should be on close up this week mate, don't forget we need numbers signed up to the federation and opportunities like this don't come around very often, if ever.

think of this..... the board skite all the time about a 100% conviction rate (similar to the Spanish Inquisition and other witch hunts) this is statistically improbable if not impossible, reminds me of the Monty python sketch...........how do you know I'm a witch?? we pay them to screw us over.........and get this they are a registered charity and don't pay tax , their "charitable" work is looking after the health and safety of the public, which i find amazing because i tried to tell them about my old boss since 2003(chip shop exploded in 2008), then they appoint the very same bloke to investigate me that gave my old boss his craftsman ticket after one oral exam, after never sitting an apprenticeship!!

There is still a HEAP that people are not aware of, but it will all come out in the wash .

Congrats to you Wal and Badger well done. I hope you can get the last charge sorted out from what I read it sounds like a load of bulls**t.

Woody the three people that have vacated the board are the three who's time was up and they were up for reelection or replacement by the minister. See the other posts on the forum for a break down of who they are and draw your own conclusions as to why the minister might have chosen at least 1 of them (hint look at there law qualifications and the recent problems with the act )

Well Badger - finally vindicated at last.  I am thrilled to see the Nelson paper's gave as much publicity to the outcome as they did to the trial - this so often is not the case.  I too read the Nelson Mail and the PGDB press release and was amazed at how spin doctors at the PGDB can turn any bit of news inside out and regurgitate it.  I understand that this has cost you dearly in terms of time and emotion - and also your family will have suffered immensely.  I do not belittle that when I also say that the PGDB have spent literally thousands of dollars on this investigation and subsequent hearing - thousands of practitioners dollars with a very poor outcome from their perspective.  This leads me to believe that with so many charges made against you and the PGDB only finding two to be proven (using their words - I do understand you may appeal this) - then their investigator has done the most appalling of jobs.  I understand the PBDB had a barrister, obviously their own in house counsel, and also a QC - I mean these people do not come cheap.  They will have paid for the investigator, the hotel and accommodation for the Board hearing the case, the accommodation etc for the barrister and his bills, the witensses that would have been called in - etc etc etc.  It just all smacks of an inept system.

If gthe investigator had done a thorough job then it is highly unlikely that you would have been charged at all.  The lesson for all of us is that based on what you have had to go through - any practitioner in NZ could find themselves in the same spot.  It appears that the PGDB need to thoroughly re-visit their investigation regimes and perhaps the people they pay to undertake their investigations.

I know that you are a Master Plumber member from other comments you have made.  Have they been in contact with you now the result is out?

Wal Gordon is to be congratulated - he has done a sterling job at his own cost -men like this are few and far between in our society.

Hi guys/wal/Badger, I’ve read all the latest and am amazed that this ever went as far as it did. The whole system needs an overhaul.  I guarantee that if you did an audit on half a dozen jobs of every one of us tradesmen, you would find something that you could pick on as not exactly to the regs etc, we do not live in a perfect world and we are not perfect.  The pgdb`s disciplinary system needs a serious overhaul or scrapping all together, the board has far too much power and seems to use it to boost their bank account and there is only one group funding it,,, US, this is not about the money it`s about the abuse of power by a group that is out of control,       
Chin up Badger, we all feel for you, cheers

Well done badger/wall we just need to get rid of the board now

3 cheers for WAL...HIP HIP HORAY HIP HIP HORAY HIP HIP HORAY, For hes a jolly good fellow, for hes a jolly good fellow, for hes a jolly good fellow.... which NOBODY can deny!

Wal your a bloody good man for all you have done for this industry and thanks for caring about others like badger who has clearly had the PGDB's law book and bloody shelf it sits on thrown at him!...

Where can i please get some of these forms from for this royal commision petition to put at my local merchants to gain more signatures?.

 im so pleased for you and your family, we all know how this sort of thing can cause breakups and breakdowns these bastards need to be sued for the upset they have caused
It needs to be said please watch your back, because you know you cant trust those pgdb(plumbers gasfitters drainlayers bastards b)
only joking they are really nice caring people

every body should remember this is the national parties plumbers board so tell there MPS how bad they are jd