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Offline roberto

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this is outragous!!!
« on: May 13, 2012, 01:18:14 PM »
its videos like this that keep us plumbers out of a job!!! the pgdb should stop people who are not licenced doing any plumbing at all!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8l4ewZi9ok

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2012, 03:09:20 PM »
Your right absolutely bloody discusting  >:( and what do they do when they stuff it up? Call a plumber. We should all be banding together and charging a premium for fixing things that the home owner has had a go at.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2012, 04:29:27 PM »
I wonder if he got a license and done his CPD... do they do gasfitting videos as well?
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 05:09:09 PM »
What a joke!! Bloody hell! And nothing can be done about this? What stand do insurance companies take on this? What about the ACT??  >:(
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2012, 09:46:51 PM »
I see what you guys are getting at and 100% whole heartily agree....


however from what i understand it is legal for anyone to replace/repair tapware, tap washers and valving

it is only when you go to ALTER (meaning to cut into, extend, reduce or modify in any way) a potable water supply or sanitary waste system you are then required to be licensed
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 10:18:00 AM »
 Love the feedback the video has been getting!  ???
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 03:42:26 PM »
Do Mitre 10 do an information video on how to run a plumbers Board, that big giant orange fecker could do it, help them with their egos....big is good.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 04:12:05 PM »
Wow the video was removed, darn I didn't get to make a copy!...  ???
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 06:00:26 PM »

sorry plumber i sent them an email advising them to take down the video on sunday when i first saw this...they must have took what i said to heart and removed the offending video...thats one to plumbers zero to DIY'ers!  :P



Quote from: integrated on May 13, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
I see what you guys are getting at and 100% whole heartily agree....


however from what i understand it is legal for anyone to replace/repair tapware, tap washers and valving

it is only when you go to ALTER (meaning to cut into, extend, reduce or modify in any way) a potable water supply or sanitary waste system you are then required to be licensed

Not to sure about the valving part integrated as this would allow the homeowner to potentialy replace there TPR valve and CWEV which is set to a certin pressure for the cylinder rating...so if the govt have let this slip in they have potentialy set up a system where homeowners could change there cylinder into a bomb.
Are you 100% on that integrated as i only want to know for sure before i put that info in my bank...cheers
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 07:19:01 PM »
Just being sarcastic Thunderhead, well done mate!  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 07:22:31 PM »
Quote from: Badger on May 14, 2012, 03:42:26 PM
Do Mitre 10 do an information video on how to run a plumbers Board, that big giant orange fecker could do it, help them with their egos....big is good.

Well said - still laughing at the thought of it!!!  That big giant orange fecker could certainly do it!!!  Wal Gordon - your mission should you choose to accept it is to recruit said big fecker!!! ;)
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 09:54:55 PM »
Quote from: Thunderhead on May 14, 2012, 06:00:26 PM

sorry plumber i sent them an email advising them to take down the video on sunday when i first saw this...they must have took what i said to heart and removed the offending video...thats one to plumbers zero to DIY'ers!  :P



Quote from: integrated on May 13, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
I see what you guys are getting at and 100% whole heartily agree....


however from what i understand it is legal for anyone to replace/repair tapware, tap washers and valving

it is only when you go to ALTER (meaning to cut into, extend, reduce or modify in any way) a potable water supply or sanitary waste system you are then required to be licensed

Not to sure about the valving part integrated as this would allow the homeowner to potentialy replace there TPR valve and CWEV which is set to a certin pressure for the cylinder rating...so if the govt have let this slip in they have potentialy set up a system where homeowners could change there cylinder into a bomb.
Are you 100% on that integrated as i only want to know for sure before i put that info in my bank...cheers




yup - apologies thunder should have clarified:

- Plumbers, Gasfitters, and Drainlayers Act 2006

- section 6 - meaning of sanitary plumbing
- (2) sanitary plumbing does not include
- (d) the work of repairing or replacing taps, ball valves, tap washers, or plugs



the clause I found most interesting:

6 - Meaning of sanitary plumbing

(1)In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires, sanitary plumbing means—
(b)the work of fixing or unfixing any trap

technically meaning it is restricted and licensed work to replace a trap of any kind!
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 10:27:39 AM »
Well at least Mitre 10 are re-active when something is pointed out to them.  More so than the PGDB anyway.  Well done to those who responded to M10 and pointed out the error of their ways.  Plumbers NZ Forum - educating the public since 2008 (or before)....
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 06:15:24 PM »
thanks very much integrated clear as mud now  :)...cheers thunder
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 09:32:32 PM »
thanks guys, I understand the part of the act where you can replace a tap in your own home, but it makes me angry to see the general public doing something us plumbers get paid for! if everyone could do their own plumbing or replace taps plumbers wouldnt be needed at all.

I also understand that its alot cheaper to replace your own tap than pay someone $60+ a hour to do it - but we still have to work to support our families as well!!!

I dont agree at all with stores like mitre 10 or bunnings selling sanitary plumbing fittings like traps, waste pipes, water pipes and elbows etc, isnt that sanitary plumbing that shouldnt be done by the public???
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