cheers,

I didnt know this but i would rather see them sold to plumbers or tradesmen only, not the general public, cheers

yeah i totally agree, if the pgdb keep putting adverts everywhere asking for people to ask a tradesman to see thier licence, why are these fitings avalible to the public in mitre 10, bunnings etc???

I got the recent plumbers journal last week that came with a bumper sticker for your car with:

"Hiring a plumber, gasfitter or drainlayer???

Ask to see there licence, it is illegal for anyone who is unlicenced to carry out plumbing, gasfitting and drainlaying work"

doesnt make sense to me!

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fact is merchants dont give two hoots - they will sell to anyone and everyone to make as many dollars as possible

i have had many discussions with mico/crane, plumbing world, e.g's etc - they seriously dont give a shiite

anthing to fluff their own pillows - including cpd & cash work

We shop at Franklins and there pretty good the sales people hate members of the public buying gear off them but of course they are only counter staff and have no say...in fact one sales staff will leave any member of the public waiting as long as possible while he serves the licensed account holders first...the rep also told me today that he had rearanged the sale price to his costomers by giving licensed trades people the best deals...lol one of his builders moaned to him about not getting the same deal as plumbers...he quickly said if a plumber goes to placemakers does he get your rates???...he then said after you go and do your 4 years of traning come and show me your license and you will get the same rates as our plumbers get...lolololol good on him i reckon....
And if these trades do pose as great a risk to the health and safety of the public and we have to go through extensive traning and license fees and bullshit cpd then why the hell can joe blow bowl on in to plumbing world and bloody buy GAS FITTINGS...PLUMBING FITTINGS...DRAINLAYING FITTINGS...i mean what sort of story are they trying to tell us one hand says this is dangerous work and the other gives these dangerous products to joe plublic...Bunch of bloody idiots!!!.

And for my two cents worth - some of these merchants who are selling product to the public are also running Road Shows etc with points and are supporting the CPD schemes because they think it is important that practitioners keep up to date and remain competent - how does this sit with selling product to the public who are so NOT competent.

They want it both ways - selling to the public, lobbying parliament so that CPD scheme stays and they have a captive audience for selling stuff, and then also giving discounts to builders etc who shouldn't be putting this stuff in and are shafting the plumbers etc.

We have a merchant in Wellington who is having a big Stocktake sale at the moment.  They are selling Infintiy 26's with a free controller cheaper than I can buy from my merchant.  Rinnai support them and their sale, but yet expect practitioners to purchase Rinnai product all year around.  It just makes me so bloody wild that these suppliers are shafting us left, right and centre.  Joe Public will go and buy one Infinity from this merchant and won't need another one for 20 years, practitioners miss out on their margins and livelihood, and yet we might purchase 100 or 200 Infinities in a year and help keep Rinnai in business.  If this merchant can sell this stuff at this price and still make money then a) Rinnai are giving a damn good one off price  2) our regular merchants are shafting us  3) This merchant is an idiot and not making any money. 

Just a clue (3) isn't an option.  They aren't idiots - just don't really give a stuff about practitioners and are not a merchant who contributes anything to wider industry - but in my opinion  more like the cut price bargin bin of merchants you know the sort, open the box and bits missing, once you walk out the door we don't want to know about it...  That sort, but a wealthy that sort.

hi guys this is what comes through`Builders Crack`cheers
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