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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #630 on: February 21, 2017, 06:02:19 PM »
My reply to Martins response to my OIA request.......what a f****ing joke......oh I have dropped my integrity can some one help me find it.........






Paul Gee <plumbngas@gmail.com> 
 

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Thank you Martin,




Please while you are at it can you explain to me how on earth the PGDB have "dealt" with my case........ you see the 42 charges I was proven not to be responsible for and the explosion go unaddressed and un-investigated with no one held accountable, whatsoever, with the (according to none other than the PGDB) "dangerous work" still in place some many years later.




And lets not forget the certificate manipulation, even perhaps fraud, unearthed at Powick Street, how were all the above "dealt" with.




It has not, in my mind as a fair minded lay person, been dealt with in any way other than if you take "dealt" as meaning tried to pin on Paul Gee.




Those places of 44 charges were so dangerous as to level charges at me, un-yet apparently safe enough to leave as is and not go look for the real culprit in 42 charges, an apparent fraud and an explosion......




It has not been dealt with in anyway, please can you stop urinating up my shin and whilst attempting to inform me there is heavy precipitation, so to speak. It is sheer male bovine faecal matter.




It is nothing short of laughable, any one who says this has been dealt with lacks any sense of justice or integrity. In my opinion.










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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #631 on: February 21, 2017, 07:52:42 PM »
This PGD Board who Martin claims to have "dealt" with my case.....(since when was it "my" case?, think about it when did I get to own this case, surely it is the case of the Milton Street explosion eh?)....

So Martin ......This is the same Board who decided the best person to investigate was the same person who lobbied for self certification and gifted Darnley his license....you know Darnley who all the evidence points to....for the explosion....but the charge disappeared before his hearing.....f**** off mate, f**** right off....

Tony Hammond.....protecting the now failed cert system.....sorry Tony you didn't do a good job protecting your self certifying system, nor your reputation in granting Darnley his full ticket, your legacy is a total cluster-f**** up...hahahaha love that one........tool!!!!!!! ;D


So Martin......is this Board you talk of, the same Board who thought Stephen Parker was the best guy to chair the hearing, with his mate as the investigator Tony Hammond as the impartial investigator......the same Parker who shut down the hearing as we were cross-examining Tony......for me to go 100% innocent......what a pair these are.....

Sorry Martin "my case" has NEVER been "dealt" with......ever....slanted, biased and set up yes definitely.....but never "dealt" with........with all due respect (zero).....f**** off.....


And when you consider that 95% of the charges are still go un-addressed, same as the explosion and the cert manipulation at Powick Street.........well do anyone think it has been dealt with?......do me a favour....

Or the central heating system that is going to kill....you know the stagnant water in the c/h rads, held there by TRV's that will open in winter and allow the water to be atomised through the shower.....this has never been dealt with......covered up yes , dealt with no.....

Or the loosing of gas certs by the PGDB (one at the site of an explosion) , the accepting of incomplete certs by the PGDB, the flippant issuing of certifying licenses to their mates by the PGDB....the accuracy disclaimer (LOL).........and it is US who need to show the card....where is their card?....f****in inept....

There are many many issues that go totally UN-DEALT with by the PGDB, the minister, nor the government......talk about full of shit..........their cups runneth over....


It is a joke......ON US..... hope you enjoy paying for those licenses.....where's their licenses??


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #632 on: February 21, 2017, 07:59:57 PM »
I have guided the PGDB to this thread many times, more than I have posted......I know they watch this....

Martin mate.....if anything I have publically said is untrue.......where's my lawyer's letter....where is my day in court?....they know I would turn up.....


See they won't take me to court because it ain't slander if it is true.....its called truth, they may need to look that up.....so you could argue that they know they are dodgy......

Right is might...............

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #633 on: February 21, 2017, 08:30:07 PM »
Now as a little interlude to proceedings lets have a look at Marty, ten to two, Jackson and Graham, oh that's another fine mess you got me into Hardy....


An a couple of that fat mouthy Welsh Bastard.....me


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #634 on: February 21, 2017, 08:40:15 PM »
Sorry its only fair that Marty ten to two has the same exposure....


Imagine as this photo next to a smug "Info brief" caption.....

"Dodgy unsafe work ignored......we are happy that we have managed to ignore some very unsafe work....blah blah f****erty blah"


 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #635 on: February 21, 2017, 11:21:30 PM »
I love this definition in an on-line dictionary, not a fancy Oxford one, but just a run of the mill online dictionary.
its about con-spir-a-cy.........
 

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noun, plural conspiracies. 


1.

the act of conspiring.


2.

an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.


3.

a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose:
He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.


4.

Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.


5.

any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.



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1325-1375
1325-75;  Middle English  conspiracie, probably < Anglo-French; see conspire, -acy; replacing Middle English  conspiracioun; see conspiration

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1. collusion, sedition. 2. Conspiracy,  plot,  intrigue,  cabal all refer to surreptitious or covert schemes to accomplish some end, most often an evil one. A conspiracy usually involves a group entering into a secret agreement to achieve some illicit or harmful objective: a vicious conspiracy to control prices.A plot is a carefully planned secret scheme, usually by a small number of persons, to secure sinister ends: a plot to seize control of a company.An intrigue usually involves duplicity and deceit aimed at achieving either personal advantage or criminal or treasonous objectives: the petty intrigues of civil servants. Cabal refers either to a plan by a small group of highly-placed persons to overthrow or control a government, or to the group of persons themselves: a cabal of powerful lawmakers.



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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #636 on: February 22, 2017, 07:44:14 AM »
Graham Hardy was the only certifying gas fitter on my hearings panel....and he is British.....

I had placed a Bosch califont 560mm below a window, I had a tech note for a Rinnai 26 and 32 (of much greater MJ ) and I knew of the British Standard below attached.....

I didn't mention this Standard because I have seen the backlash of saying this is how we do it in the UK.....

I drew diagrams how the fumes would have behaved and had a statement from the owner see attached....see attached and compare to the smoke bomb.....I was right

Mandatory Part one the code says the fumes must not go in the window....the fumes didn't...and it was fitted below a open plan dining room with living room and kitchen adjacent......compare to the unit below*

So the PGDB enforced a NON mandatory part 2 of the code......

This is the only charge they had on me......all this dangerous work, as far as I know, is still in exactly the same place....



The PGDB at a later date told an elderly couple who HAD smelt fumes and Had made a complaint, with their unit at 540mm, closer than mine and issuing in to a much more enclosed area....smelling it in their bathroom* usually the smallest room in the house.....what happens when we open the bathroom window to let the steam out from the hot water from the califont.....oh the fumes go back in....

These poor buggers, who were on meds because of the stress......told to shut the window when they use it.....


Add this to the fact all the work covered by the charges was never tackled after the hearing, 42 charges not chased up (because if I didn't do it who did?), the explosion still has no one held responsible and a cert manipulation with the cylinders still on the deck......really?

Martin Sawyers CEO of the PGDB.....please define "dealt with" in reference to my case.....







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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #637 on: February 22, 2017, 08:14:47 AM »
So Martin Sawyers CEO PGDB thinks that the people who over seen "my" case, not the case of the explosion, but mine.....well Martin thinks that the these conflicted people were "best placed to assess the information at the time"......

Really Martin you mean the Impartial investigator who was mates with the chair of the hearing......really those guys? Best placed?.......oh they were placed alright......positioned I would say.....

So Martin has the 42 charges been dealt with, because if I wasn't responsible who was......what's that Martin the PGDB don't know because they didn't pursue this.....really?

How about the explosion Martin, has that been dealt with, because as far as I know, no one has been held accountable and the guy who all the evidence points to faced a charge but it disappeared.....really?

How about the manipulation of certificates, a potential fraud, has that been dealt with Martin.....because the only time the PGDB contacted these people was in the un-true letter about me and then left the cylinders where they were....


Dealt with mate?.........


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #638 on: February 22, 2017, 08:18:46 AM »
The only way I can make sense of "dealt with" is in the context of cover up and attempt to pin on me, Martin.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #639 on: February 22, 2017, 08:31:59 AM »
That smug boss-eyed Peter Jackson said to me when I approached him at a PGDB road-show about the sham of a hearing that I was subjected to.....

He said and I quote, "I don't see the problem you kept your license".......so "ten to two" it was just my business, reputation and home you wanted me to lose eh! What a giant smug twat, in my opinion.

I nearly said " just you look me straight in the eye and say that again"......but I thought it would take all night and I had work in the morning.....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #640 on: February 22, 2017, 08:41:02 AM »
Just compare the drawing I drew at the hearing with the actual fumes.....then add that to the two comments from the owner.....

This is the last and final charge I was done for....I got done for installing it (one charge) and signing it off (2nd charge).....

Do you mean "dealt with" Martin by losing my business and reputation and home based just on these.....just this?

I was dealt to mate not dealt with......DEALT TOO.....leaving 42 charges worth of work still out there......ask for the card.....just remember this guys when he goes on about safety and promoting the industry.......

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #641 on: February 22, 2017, 09:00:03 AM »
I did nothing wrong, nothing.....but we lost our home, business and reputation, had my wife terrorised with child sexual abuse case notes and had to work away from home on and off since.....


My only mistake trying to warn that Darnley was doing dangerous work covered by dodgy certs.....for 6 years before an explosion.....which they tried to pin on me....missing and incomplete certificates covering an explosion....I could not have been more bang on the money, I could not have tailored my warning any better.......

What I didn't know was I was complaining to the very people who gifted Darnley his full certifying license...

These same people then appoint as the investigator the same person, Tony Hammond, who gifted Darnley his license.....to investigate for a hearing that was to be presided over by Tony Hammond's colleague Stephen Parker.......Stephen Parker calling a halt to the hearing just as we were going to go 100% innocent.....


Is this what Martin Sawyers means by "dealt with".......by the best people for the job.......please explain Martin.


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #642 on: February 22, 2017, 09:37:59 AM »
sent today

Paul Gee <plumbngas@gmail.com> 
 

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Martin,

I believe I have a very strong case against the PGDB for directing a character assassination on myself whilst terrorising my wife and placing undue risk on the NZ public.

I believe the behaviour levelled at my wife and I has been underhanded, biased, directed, egregious, premeditated and corrupt. Anyone at the PGDB in my opinion is party to all this if they don't investigate it and fix it.

My case as never been addressed nor dealt with, the people involved were not the best people for the job as they had huge conflicts of interest, which were later shown by their apparent biased and dishonest actions.

I tried to complain about these conflicts of interest, 6 years to this day, and was told by the PGDB that the PGDB was impartial, which is a conflict in its self.

I was also told that until the investigator acted egregiously them I could not complain about his involvement.

Tony Hammond withheld over 100 photos that proved what I had maintained from the very day of the explosion, someone had moved my original pipe work, is this now egregious enough for me to complain?


If this is now deemed by the PGDB as egregious enough, I would like to formally complain about this withholding of these crucial photos, as well as the other dishonest actions by Hammond and Parker.

Please can you provide a point of contact for my lawyer, either at the PGDB or your insurance company.

You previously said to me with disgust that,  "I am only after money" but I will have to correct you on that, I also want an apology.


As I see no other way to replace the home my wife lost, or put my sons through uni or re-establish a viable business, yes I do want compensation for the effects the actions of the PGDB have had on me and my family.


Before the PGDB told the local high school I was capable of issuing illegal certs in the North Island my business was thriving, I had zero debt and was mortgage free.

I just want to go back to where I was before I was singled out by the corrupt actions I was subjected to.


Please provide a point of contact.


Paul.

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #643 on: February 22, 2017, 09:41:42 AM »
Lets see if this system of ours is fair, if its open to all, if YOU can expect to rely on it for justice......lets see....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #644 on: February 22, 2017, 02:09:14 PM »
See this is where robust systems, run properly with integrity comes into it....and why we all should push for this because it protects us all. This could have been anyone of you, and still could be.......

If the PGDB had said,

"Paul that guy you were trying to warn us about doing dodgy work for the last 6 years tried to tell us that he might be altering work, adding to work and manipulating the cert system to cover that work......well.......er....(twiddles finger on desk back and forth)........See we've had....err an explosion.....ummmm.......you were right, there was actually a cert with all the leak test fields empty....umm he actually altered your pipe mate.........errrrr......sorry mate for not listening to you, good on ya"

But the problem is.....because the integrity was gone, to cover an ineptly run cert and license system.......well they excepted that cert and gifted Darnley his license......they just couldn't swallow that chunk of pride....(nor the exposure both legally and in the media).........



Lets pin it on Paul......two birds one stone.......


A scape goat was needed........enter me and my family......


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